I don't know if you folks are following Metcalfe's columns but this week the topic is NANOG and he mentions some names. http://www.infoworld.com/pageone/opinions/metcalfe/metcalfe.htm Michael Dillon ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael at memra.com