Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations

Dick St.Peters stpeters at NetHeaven.com
Mon Jan 29 06:03:11 UTC 1996

Sean Donelan writes:
> Ah, a reason why Sprint's filters are self-defeating.  You would
> be better off leaving sprint now, and going to a different provider.


Were it not for Sprint, I wouldn't exist.

When I was starting out I had never even seen a cisco (although I'd
been shoving tcp/ip through them for a dozen years).  I had no idea
where to buy one or how to configure it.  Sprint not only told me what
I needed, they sold it to me at a good price.  They configured it for
me.  My first lesson in cisco configuration was by telephone at 4 am
one morning from a Sprint engineer, while we waited for techs to do
something with my line.

(I had one of the oddest set of qualifications and non-qualifications
around.  I had co-founded the GE corporate tcp/ip network in 1983, but
I was in R&D, and we'd handed that off to MIS.  I had run a LAN
segment of 30 or so assorted unix boxes for a dozen years, but I'd
never configured a router more complicated than a Sun with two enet
ports.  I was an applications type - distributed OS's and the like.)

When I was a 56k site with 8 dialup lines in my home, and some people
were trying to extract $10K/yr to pay for a CIX router that almost
none of my packets ever came near, Sprint stood with me and the other
tiny providers.  (Selling dialup was then a side business generating
less than $10K gross revenue the first year.)

Thanks in part to Sprint, that side business has grown into a network
of four POPs bringing the Internet to NY State's Adirondack region.
There's no fortune to be made here, but there's a living in it.  It's
what I wanted to do, and I couldn't have done it without Sprint.

Sean Doran's recent posting about how the Sprints aren't out to squash
us little guys but in fact are dependent on us was remarkably like the
way I used to explain Sprint's position during the CIX filtering war
in summer of '94.  In fact, I think he stole those ideas from me :)

Sprint is big, and they're busy, and it can be damnably hard to get
their attention (hence my posting), but I'm here because they helped
me when I needed help and backed me politically and operationally when
I needed backing.  Out here in the woods, things like that still

I think there are other solutions to my problem.  I personally don't
even want to multihome ... my private line to Sprint has never gone
down, so I'm effectively part of Sprint's network, and last time I
checked, Sprint was multi-homed.  My colocated customer is sitting on
Sprint's network ... what more can they want?  Me practicing BGP on

Unfortunately, *their* major customer had its weekend trade show a
week ago when a big fiber cut isolated the show from my customer's
server all day.  Since the company had gone public the Thursday before
and had bet its farm (and a lot of other peoples') on good press from
the trade show, things were kind of tense, and my customer is in no
mood to be told how they're already multi-homed.

Dick St.Peters,         Gatekeeper, Pearly Gateway, Ballston Spa, NY
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