Agenda for next NANOG

Michael Dillon michael at
Sat Aug 31 04:02:49 UTC 1996

On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Curtis Villamizar wrote:

> Any of the ISPs losing packets like crazy need only look at the stats
> on their routers.

Maybe these ISP's don't know that there are stats on their routers or that
there is packet loss there. As an NSP you would be doing your customers a
service by telling them about such things. It doesn't help to call these
people clueless idiots and suggest that they have no business running an
ISP even if it is true.

And even if an ISP monitors their router stats and sees peak traffic at
around 60% of a T1 they could still have congestion problems elsewhere in
their network such as their Ethernet or lines to POP's. All of this stuff
contributes to public perceptions of a slow Internet and somebody has to
take the first step to do end-to-end testing and point out where these
trouble spots really are.

Michael Dillon                   -               ISP & Internet Consulting
Memra Software Inc.              -                  Fax: +1-604-546-3049             -               E-mail: michael at

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