links on the blink (fwd)

Michael Dillon michael at
Wed Nov 8 23:17:48 UTC 1995

On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Hans-Werner Braun wrote:

> >> These aggregations result in some degree of
> >> steady state, but also burst behavior, which even in a well designed
> >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >People who have analyzed Internet traffic would disagree with that 
> >statement. The traffic patterns on the Internet do not appear to converge 
> >on a steady state when multiple packet streams are aggregated.
> you're the greatest expert around here, obviously.


I just have a memory which is good at storing facts. Sometime in the last 
month on either nanog or com-priv a person whose name escapes me posted 
an article about some statistical studies that had been done on the old 
NSFnet and recently redone. In both instances the traffic patterns did 
not smooth out after aggregation. There was a specific 
mathematical/statistical term used to describe the distribution but I 
can't remember it (not a mathematician).

So, no I am not a great expert, but I listen carefully, try to understand 
intuitively what the real experts are saying and think about the 
implications.  In any case, expertise is not an overall thing in this day 
and age. I am an expert in certain fields which Curtis and Sean probably 
know little. They in turn are experts far beyond my level in their 
fields. One nice thing about Internet lists (and some parts of USENET) is 
that we can all rub shoulders and from time to time, develop a synergy 
that helps us understand our own problems better and find solutions that 
we would not have found strictly within the confines of our field of 

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