MAE-east weirdness

Gordon Cook gcook at
Mon May 8 22:48:33 UTC 1995

My apologies John... if my comment was not in keeping with accepted 
standards for this list I'll go back to lurking.

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On Mon, 8 May 1995, John Hawkinson wrote:

> > Subject: Re: MAE-east weirdness
> > From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" <karl at>
> > To: gcook at
> > Cc: motodave at, nanog at, rdean at
> Can we PLEASE not use nanog for this sort of thing? 
> I mean, yes, it's for operational issues, but it's not for the sort
> of ignorant fingerpointing you can resolve by just calling the relevent
> party's NOC.
> > > Did this happen on Friday?  If so I heard from a directly knowledgeable 
> > > source that there was a power failure in Dallas that affected the MFS pop 
> > > there and that MFS had to bring in a truck with generators to get the 
> > > node operational again.  If this is correct wold the looping be really 
> > > blamable to either UUNET or Sprint?
> Gordon, if you care, call up Alternet and Sprint before sending out
> mail.
> > involved is pointing default somewhere (which could cause this).  My
> > understanding is that both Sprint and Alternet run defaultless (as do 
> > many multihomed providers who have a reasonable route table such as MCS.)
> Karl, I believe your understanding is incorrect, but, nevertheless, I
> believe that this can all be attributed to a DS3 cut that is affected
> Alternet, and has been all day. I'm sure they know and are working to
> fix it as quickly as they can, and presumbaly they're having problem
> with route flap.
> --
> John Hawkinson
> jhawk at

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