How threading works (was Re: Root Cause Re: 202401102221.AYC Re: Streamline The CG-NAT Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block)

Sat Jan 13 22:37:24 UTC 2024

Hi, Bryan:

0)    Thank you so much for coming to the rescue!!!

1)    Basically trained as a radio frequency hardware engineer, I am 
only capable of using software as tools necessary for my work. For 
eMail, I have been using ThunderBird ever since its beginning. With my 
own time-stamping Subject line discipline, I never needed its threading 
function. When I received complaints last year, I experimented threading 
on it and found that it was doing just fine. Whether I prefixed or 
suffixed the timestamps to the Subject line could not break it. I 
requested counter examples from those who were having difficulties with 
my MSGs, but received none. Frustrated but not able to do anything, I 
went back to continue my EzIP work, leaving this subject in the back 
burner of my mind. This time around, the problem popped up again in the 
midst of large number of MSG exchanges. I am so relieved that you 
presented the threading on the NANOG eMail server that mirrors what I 
saw on my own PC. So, we now have a common reference for everyone to 
look at this phenomenon. (Why no one else knew about this facility?)

2)    From the Wikipedia explanation of RFC5822, I as a ThunderBird 
user, really have nothing to do with the Message-ID that it puts on my 
MSGs nor how does it make use of such to display the threads. And, my 
Subject line style can't affect it either. So, why some colleagues are 
having difficulties with just my eMails, but seemly not from others? 
Could this be caused by the large number of MSGs within a short period 
of time that amplified this issue? From another feedback, I realized 
that some colleagues may be using plain text text editors or alike for 
eMail, because they could not see color nor italic emphasizing of my 
text. Could such be related to this issue?

I would appreciate very much if you could advance my education with some 
explanations after perhaps discussions with those offended by my MSGs.

Regards,

Abe (2024-01-13 17:37)

> On 1/12/24 3:04 PM, Mu wrote:
>> Would it be possible for you to reply in-thread, rather than creating 
>> a new thread with a new subject line every time you reply to someone?
>>
>> Trying to follow the conversation becomes very difficult for no reason.
>
> Threading has nothing to do with subject lines.  RFC822 (now 5822) 
> specifies how this works based on message ID.  This thread displays 
> fine in threaded mode in my MUA and in the archives.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversation_threading
> https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-January/thread.html
>
> If people could please reply to threads properly, inline and trimming 
> non relevant text, it would make following discussion much easier.
>

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