Zayo woes

Tue Sep 19 17:15:32 UTC 2023

Ugh... Just as much NOT ISP as ISP. 

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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net> 
To: "Matt Erculiani" <merculiani at gmail.com> 
Cc: nanog at nanog.org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 11:39:49 AM 
Subject: Re: Zayo woes 

Well sure, but what started this tangent is that to me, anyway, it seemed like ENA had just as much ISP as it had ISP, if not more. It would be like buying a farm to get farm-fresh eggs in your kitchen. 

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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Matt Erculiani" <merculiani at gmail.com> 
To: "Anne Mitchell" <amitchell at isipp.com> 
Cc: nanog at nanog.org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 11:06:57 AM 
Subject: Re: Zayo woes 

> they are left with having to run something that they never really wanted until they can figure out what to do with it 

Buy enough Dark Fiber providers, you'll eventually acquire an ISP 
Buy enough ISPs, you'll eventually acquire a Colo 
Buy enough Colos, you'll eventually acquire a small Cloud 
Buy any small Clouds and you're guaranteed to acquire managed services for small companies. 

Now you've gone from being Layer 0 only catering whales, to dabbling in Layer 7 at Dr. Morris's Family dentistry. 

Spin off what you don't want, and repeat. 

-Matt 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 9:40 AM Anne Mitchell < amitchell at isipp.com > wrote: 

> On Sep 19, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa> wrote: 
> 
> Sometimes it does not add any material value to either network. Sometimes it takes too long. 

And sometimes the acquisition is really just about acquiring the assets, such as the customer list*, and then they are left with having to run something that they never really wanted until they can figure out what to do with it. 

*Yes, even in these industries. Do I sound cynical? Well, cynical != not accurate. :-( 

Anne 

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