Guest Column: Kentik's Doug Madory, Last Call for Upcoming ISOC Course + More

Sat Sep 9 16:29:57 UTC 2023

>
> What network does Nanog-news operate?
>
> Marketing email doesn’t  belong on an operational list.  Even if its NANOG
> marketing itself.  (Ack Kentik non involvement).
>

This is the right comment.

The NANOG Mailing List Usage Guidelines  (
https://www.nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/ ) are fairly clear about
this.

Posts to NANOG’s Mailing List should be focused on operational and
> technical content only, as described by the NANOG Bylaws.
> Using the NANOG Mailing List as a source for private marketing
> initiatives, or product marketing of any kind, is prohibited.

Sending this type of message to nanog@ is not appropriate, by our own
rules. This issue will be raised at the next members meeting.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 9:39 PM Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> What network does Nanog-news operate?
>
> Marketing email doesn’t  belong on an operational list.  Even if its NANOG
> marketing itself.  (Ack Kentik non involvement).
>
> Warm regards,
>
> -M<
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 20:52 Ryan Hamel <ryan at rkhtech.org> wrote:
>
>> Randy,
>>
>> You're right, the problem is not technical. It's a choice to click the
>> links or not. NANOG does not have to sanitize links for you. Those emails
>> do not have to be read, and no one is stopping you from filtering them out.
>> For you to say, "my privacy has been sold", is simply not true.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech.org at nanog.org> on behalf of
>> Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 8, 2023 5:25 PM
>> *To:* John Gilmore <gnu at toad.com>
>> *Cc:* nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Guest Column: Kentik's Doug Madory, Last Call for
>> Upcoming ISOC Course + More
>>
>> Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care
>> when clicking links or opening attachments.
>>
>>
>> > It is totally possible to turn off the spyware in MailChimp.  You just
>> > need to buy an actual commercial account rather than using their
>> > "free" service.  To save $13 or $20 per month, you are instead selling
>> > the privacy of every recipient of your emails.  See:
>> >
>> >
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailchimp.com%2Fhelp%2Fenable-and-view-click-tracking%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C4ac3a26bb5c4481c087908dbb0cbc6d7%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638298161499653329%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Pw6uDgHDzT%2BavOz1jYAbG4VzTyP0en0oiuBq0PmTtVI%3D&reserved=0
>> <https://mailchimp.com/help/enable-and-view-click-tracking/>
>> >
>> >   "Check the Track clicks box to enable click tracking, or uncheck the
>> >   box to disable click tracking.  ...  Mailchimp will continue to
>> >   redirect URLs for users with free account plans to protect against
>> >   malicious links.  ...  When a paid user turns off click tracking,
>> >   Mailchimp will continue to redirect their URLs until certain account
>> >   activity thresholds are met."
>> >
>> > Don't forget to turn off the spyware 1x1 pixel "web bugs" that
>> > MailChimp inserts by default, too:
>> >
>> >
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailchimp.com%2Fhelp%2Fabout-open-tracking%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C4ac3a26bb5c4481c087908dbb0cbc6d7%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638298161499653329%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=iqkTsuhDFD3poxVltrN4x%2FWY6eXpbIivWxf4VAWcXKA%3D&reserved=0
>> <https://mailchimp.com/help/about-open-tracking/>
>>
>>
>> as usual, the problem is not technical.  there is no need for mailchump
>> at all.
>>
>> nanog management has made a very intentional decision to sell my
>> privacy.  nanog has come a long way, not all of it  good.
>>
>> randy
>>
>
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