Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

Sun Oct 8 12:27:18 UTC 2023

Yeah, was looking at their active solution for a customer, but just don’t
know enough about it to go that route.

David

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:17 AM Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:

> Well, and that's kinda where I was going.
>
> I've used FS passive systems for years. FS has an active platform or two
> (that I understand, they just whitebox). Does it really do everyone one
> would need to do? How much of a step is it to get something more?
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> *From: *"David Bass" <davidbass570 at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Dave Bell" <me at geordish.org>
> *Cc: *nanog at nanog.org
> *Sent: *Friday, October 6, 2023 8:55:21 AM
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> *Subject: *Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms
>
> On the same topic, anyone have experience with the stuff from fs.com?
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 9:53 AM Dave Bell <me at geordish.org> wrote:
>
>> Smartoptics?
>>
>> https://smartoptics.com/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 14:43, Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/6/23 15:07, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>> > I've been using various forms of passive WDM for years. I have a
>>> couple different projects on my plate that require me to look at the next
>>> level of platform.
>>> >
>>> > In some projects, I'll be looking for needing to have someone long
>>> distances of glass without any electronics. Some spans could be over 60
>>> miles.
>>> >
>>> > In some projects, I'll need to transport multiple 100-gig waves.
>>> >
>>> > What is the landscape like between basic passive and something like a
>>> 30 terabit Ciena? I know of multiple vendors in that space, but I like to
>>> learn more about what features I need and what features I don't need from
>>> somewhere other than the vendor's mouth. Obviously, the most reliability at
>>> the least cost as well.
>>>
>>> 400G-ZR pluggables will get you 400Gbps on a p2p dark fibre over 80km -
>>> 100km. So your main cost there will be routers that will support.
>>>
>>> The smallest DCI solution from the leading DWDM vendors is likely to be
>>> your cheapest option. Alternatively, if you are willing to look at the
>>> open market, you can find gear based on older CMOS (40nm, for example),
>>> which will now be EoL for any large scale optical network, but cost next
>>> to nothing for a start-up with considerable capacity value.
>>>
>>> There is a DWDM vendor that showed up on the scene back in 2008 or
>>> thereabouts. They were selling a very cheap, 1U box that had a different
>>> approach to DWDM from other vendors at the time. I, for the life of me,
>>> cannot remember their name - but I do know that Randy introduced them to
>>> me back then. Maybe he can remember :-). Not sure if they are still in
>>> business.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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