Advantages and disadvantages of legacy assets

Wed Nov 22 19:16:37 UTC 2023

It’s recently come to my attention that I must stand partially corrected in what I said below.

Apparently, Tata is rejecting routes that have neither RPKI nor an RIR-based IRR record created after 1993.

This means that virtually all legacy holders who change IRRs or make any of a number of other possible updates to their IRR data will be unreachable to single-homed Tata customers (and unable to reach them).

This unfortunate choice by Tata is likely to become a trend in the future, but I figured it would be several more years before that happened. In fact, I was hoping it wouldn’t really take shape in a meaningful way until IPv4 lost its relevance.

Unfortunately, Tata has decided to take the lead in disconnecting legacy prefix holders and pushing the RIR contract agenda.

Owen

> On Nov 20, 2023, at 12:25, owen--- via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
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> The only advantage is not being subject to an RIR contract and not paying annual fees. Especially with the fee structure games ARIN has been playing over the last decade or so.
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> I made the mistake of bringing my legacy resources under ARIN LRSA contract once upon a time. I ended up transferring them to RIPE Non-Contract in order to get out from under that arrangement.
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> While you can’t get RPKI without paying annual fees, you can get IRR services, just not from ARIN.
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> You can use altdb as an IRR for free with legacy space without any issues at all.
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> It’s unlikely that lack of RPKI will be a significant drawback for the foreseeable future.
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> Worst case, if need arises, transfer your space to RIPE and make arrangements with a RIPE LIR to “sponsor” your prefixes. This is usually around 70+EU per year to the sponsoring LIR. Prices vary greatly, so be prepared to negotiate.
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> Owen
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>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 10:59, Eric Dugas via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
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>> Greetings!
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>> Let's say you inherit legacy assets (ASN & IPv4 netblock), what are the first advantages that come to mind (beside not having to pay annual fees).
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>> Any disadvantages? The ones I can think of is the lack of RIR routing security services (in the ARIN region at least). No IRR, no RPKI at all.
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>> Eric
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