10G CPE w/VXLAN - vendors?

Thu Jun 15 05:22:05 UTC 2023

Huawei NE8000-M1C

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 07:20 Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa> wrote:

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> On 6/14/23 20:50, Adam Thompson wrote:
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> Hello, all.
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> I’m having difficulty finding vendors, never mind products, that fit my
> need.
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> We have a small but growing number of L2 (bridged) customers that have
> diverse fiber paths available, and, naturally, want to make use of them.
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> We have a solution for this: we extend the edge of our EVPN VXLAN fabric
> right to the customer premise.  The customer-prem device needs 4x10G SFP+
> cages (2 redundant paths, plus LAG to customer), and the switches we
> currently use, Arista 7020Rs, are quite expensive if I’m deploying one one
> per customer.  (Nice switches, but overkill here – I don’t need 40/100G,
> and I don’t need 24 SFP+ ports.  And they still take forever to ship.)
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> We use RFC7438 §6.3 “vlan-aware-bundle” mode, not §6.1 “vlan-based” mode,
> which limits our choices somewhat.  I might be willing to entertain
> spinning up a separate VXLAN mesh using RFC7438 §6.1 (“vlan-based”) and
> static VTEPs if it saves me a lot of pain.
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> However, I’m having trouble finding small & cheap*er* 1U (or even
> desktop/wallmount) devices that have 4 SFP+ cages, and can do VXLAN, in the
> first place.
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> Who even makes CPE gear with SFP+ ports?  (Other than Mikrotik
> CRS309-1G-8S+IN / CRS317-1G-16S+RM, which are nice, but our policy requires
> vendor support contracts, so… no-go.)
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> Vendors?  Model#s, if you happen to know any?
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> You will have trouble finding such a device at the price you need because
> it is atypical to have your customer's CPE as part of your Metro-E backbone.
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> Our sales people have asked for this more times than I can remember. We
> have continued to refuse for a reason.
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> They've angled their query to extend our u-PE devices into the customer
> site, to which they can attach their CPE. We have refused that too, because
> most customer's do not allow 3rd party fibre x-connects into their site
> (for example, some country's embassy, a stock exchange building, a bank,
> e.t.c.), never mind the fact that most customer sites are not fitted with
> 24/7/365 availability and security. And we continue to refuse.
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> My advice - don't do it. But it sounds like you want to, so...
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> Mark.
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