Deployments of Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)

Fri Aug 25 15:46:35 UTC 2023

Hi Etienne,

Those replies are accurate.  There are still some large PBB deployments since once you deploy technologies it’s hard to change.  However, there haven’t really been new PBB deployments in many years now.  Vendors are also not developing the features to support it any more. I would consider it a dead technology at this point.    There is L2 PBB and flavors of PBB-VPLS and PBB-EVPN, PBB-VPLS was more widely deployed over MPLS than any other “PBB” technology.

Thanks,
Phil

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+bedard.phil=gmail.com at nanog.org> on behalf of Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Date: Friday, August 25, 2023 at 3:35 AM
To: NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Deployments of Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB)
I've had two private replies, both of which suggest that
PBB has little to no share in the overall pie of the aggregation technology space,
nor in the overall pie of the core technology space.

However, a third correspondent states that Bard (Google's "Chat-based AI tool") claims that
PBB is deployed by AT&T, Verizon, China Mobile, Deutsche Telecom and Comcast.
This correspondent warns that Bard "could be hallucinating" :)

Any further data points/insight would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Etienne

On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 10:43 AM Etienne-Victor Depasquale <edepa at ieee.org<mailto:edepa at ieee.org>> wrote:
Hello folks,

Based on data I've gathered through quantitative and qualitative surveying,
I can detect no application of Provider Backbone Bridging (MAC-in-MAC).
Please bear with me while I clarify that I am not enquiring about Provider Bridging (QinQ).

I would like to ask specifically about knowledge of deployments of PBB.
If anyone would care to share data points, on- or off-list, I would love to know about them.
I am open to anything on the subject of PBB's adoption that you are free to share with me.
I am bound by GDPR and will anonymize any data that is not open for public disclosure.

Thank you!

Etienne

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