STOP USING FONT SIZE SMALL Was: Re: LOAs for Cross Connects - Something like PeeringDB for XC

Tue Feb 23 00:40:39 UTC 2021

Really, does anyone here think that it is good form to send email with font size *SMALL*?
If your MUA does this by default complain to the developers.  The default should be “medium”.
If the font is too big on your screen change the magnification *you* choose to display to *yourself*,
don’t change the font size you send to everyone else.

Mark

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> On 23 Feb 2021, at 04:03, Douglas Fischer <fischerdouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well... I must confess that I had some difficulty on the first understanding of what is proposed.
> 
> But after the 4 reads, I saw that this "spaghetti" thing is more powerful than I could imagine!
> 
> 
> Please correct me if I'm no right:
> But it looks like a "crypto sign and publishes" anything related to an organization.
> 
> Yes, I think that with some effort CrossConnect LOAs can be fitted inside of it...
> I'm not sure if it is the better solution for the scope of LOAs, but certainly is a valid discussion.
> 
> 
> What is bubbling in my mind is the standard data model for each type of different attribute that can exist...
> Who will define that?
> 
> 
> 
> Em seg., 22 de fev. de 2021 às 12:26, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com> escreveu:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:19 AM Douglas Fischer
> <fischerdouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I believe that almost everyone in here knows that LOAs for Cross Connects in Datacenters and Telecom Rooms can be a pain...
> >
> > I don't know if I'm suggesting something that already exists.
> > Or even if I'm suggesting something that could be unpopular for some reason.
> >
> > But every time I need to deal with some Cross-Connect LOA, and mostly when we face some rework on data mistakes, I dream with a "PeeringDB for Cross Connects".
> >
> 
> are you asking about something like this:
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-rsc/
> 
> Which COULD be used to, as an AS holder:
>   "sign something to be sent between you and the colo and your intended peer"
> 
> that you could sign (with your rpki stuffs) and your peer could also
> sign with their 'rpki stuffs', and which the colo provider could
> automatically validate and action upon final signature(s) received.
> 
> > So, this mail is a question and also a suggestion.
> >
> >
> > There is something like an "online notary's office" exclusive for Cross-Connect LOAs?
> >  - Somewhere Organizations can register information authorizing connections of Port on their Places (Cages, Racks, etc)...
> >
> 
> The RPKI data today doesn't contain information about
> cages/ports/patch-panels, so possibly the spaghetti draft isn't a
> terrific fit?
> 
> > If it doesn't exist. What would be necessary for that?
> > Mostly considering the PeeringDB work model.
> >  - OpenSource.
> >  - Free access to the tool, and sponsors to keep the project alive.
> >  - API driven, with some Web-gui.
> > And considering some data-modeling.
> >  - Most of the data being Open/Public (Organizations, Facilities(Datacenters and/or Telecom-Rooms), Presence on Facilities, etc).
> >  - Access control to Information that can not be public (A-side organization, Z-Side Organization, PathPanel/Port).
> > And some workflow
> >  - Cross Connect Requiremento/Authorization from A-Side
> >  - Acceptance/Authorization from Z-side.
> >  - Acceptance/Authorization from Facilities involved (could be more than one)
> >  - Execution/Activation notice from Facilities.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Douglas Fernando Fischer
> > Engº de Controle e Automação
> 
> 
> -- 
> Douglas Fernando Fischer
> Engº de Controle e Automação

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