AWS issues with 172.0.0.0/12

Neil Hanlon neil at shrug.pw
Thu Oct 10 16:11:36 UTC 2019


RCN here in the greater Boston area does CGNAT inside 10.0.0.0/8. This doesn't surprise me. 

On Oct 10, 2019, 11:27, at 11:27, Javier J <javier at advancedmachines.us> wrote:
>Very strange ATT would put end users on an RFC 1918 block unless they
>were
>doing NAT to the end user.
>If they were doing NAT, I would expect CGNAT in the 100.something or
>other
>range.
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 11:07 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 20:46 Javier J <javier at advancedmachines.us>
>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm just curious, was the ip in the RFC 1918 172.16.0.0/16 range?
>>>
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1918
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 6:01 PM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> To close the loop here (in case if someone has this type of issue
>in the
>>>> future), I have spoken to AT&T instead of trying to work it out
>with AWS
>>>> Hosted Vendor, Reolink.
>>>>
>>>> AT&T Changed my public IP, and now I am no longer in that 172.x.x.x
>>>> block, everything is working fine.
>>>>
>>>> mehmet
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:54 PM Javier J
><javier at advancedmachines.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Auto generated VPC in AWS use RFC1819 addresses. This should not
>>>>> interfere with pub up space.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the exact issue? If you can't ping something in AWS
>chances are
>>>>> it's a security group blocking you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 7:00 PM Jim Popovitch via NANOG
><nanog at nanog.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On October 1, 2019 9:39:03 PM UTC, Matt Palmer
><mpalmer at hezmatt.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 04:50:33AM -0400, Jim Popovitch via
>NANOG
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>> >> On 10/1/2019 4:09 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>>>>>> >> > possible that this is various AWS customers making
>>>>>> >iptables/firewall mistakes?
>>>>>> >> >    "block that pesky rfc1918 172/12 space!!"
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> AWS also uses some 172/12 space on their internal network
>(e.g. the
>>>>>> >network
>>>>>> >> that sits between EC2 instances and the AWS external
>firewalls)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Does AWS use 172.0.0.0/12 internally, or 172.16.0.0/12?  They're
>>>>>> >different
>>>>>> >things, after all.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know their entire operations, but they do use some
>>>>>> 172.16.0.0/12
>>>>>> addresses internally. And yes, that is very different than
>172/12,
>>>>>> sorry
>>>>>> for the confusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jim P.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>> Mehmet
>> +1-424-298-1903
>>
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