Question on peering strategies

Tue May 24 11:08:09 UTC 2016

I disagree somewhat, without a view of how you are being hijacked there often can be no remediation. Yahoo for example provides no cloud services so you can't purchase a view of their routing by getting a VM. 

Jared Mauch

> On May 24, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Max Tulyev <maxtul at netassist.ua> wrote:
> 
> I'm right here at RIPE 72 now, so I saw it of course ;)
> 
> The problem is not peering itself, but more general problem of filtering
> nets, and it was told in the presentation.
> 
>> On 24.05.16 13:19, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Max Tulyev <maxtul at netassist.ua> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you dig into hijacking topic more, you will see that hijacks through
>>> Tier1 is same or even more popular than through IXes.
>> 
>> You may not have a view into that you’re being hijacked and used to send
>> SPAM for example:
>> 
>> https://ripe72.ripe.net/presentations/45-Invisible_Hijacking.pdf
>> 
>> Their space was hijacked and announced facing Yahoo.  I’m hoping that
>> Yahoo is now feeding public route views services as a method to help
>> with detection.  Same goes for Microsoft and Google and other e-mail
>> providers.  Some sunlight here would help avoid similar localized hijacks.
>> 
>>> And if someone want to make me a transit offer for the price of DE-CIX
>>> (I do not even ask the price of DTEL-IX peering ;) ) - please, contact
>>> me off-list, I will be really happy.
>> 
>> Pricing obviously varies based on location and a few other criteria, but
>> you should be shopping if this is a major part of your business.
>> 
>> - Jared
>> 