NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?

Wed Jun 15 05:43:13 UTC 2016

Re: Item #3 there, the Google Docs spreadsheet with the IX costs...  Scroll
all the way down to the bottom in $/Mbps and you will find the SIX.

Everyone in the Pacific NW should appreciate the excellent work that the
SIX does. It's a nonprofit with transparency in its finances, a health cash
reserve for emergencies and new equipment and meets very stringent uptime
and reliability requirements.

ISP entities and enterprise end users 1000 km away from the SIX in random
locations in British Columbia, Montana, Utah and other western US states
benefit from it. People who have no idea what an IX is or how it functions
have better, faster and lower cost last mile Internet access thanks to
their local small ISP that has had the foresight to purchased a transport
circuit to Seattle to reach the SIX.

It is worth mentioning that the fine people at the NWAX in Portland are
working to build on the example set by the SIX, and are a 501(c)6
nonprofit: http://www.nwax.net/

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jared Mauch <jared at puck.nether.net> wrote:

>
> > On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Matt Peterson <matt at peterson.org> wrote:
> >
> > This week at NANOG67, a presentation was given early on that did not
> > reflect well for our community at large.
>
> I think that the data presented was interesting but the style of
> the presenter and tone could have been different.  It seemed
> to be a variant of “The Rent is Too Damn High”[1] while it can
> be interesting, there wasn’t a complete talk there IMHO.
>
> The feedback mechanism for this is honestly the survey[2].  I’m confident
> that the PC will take this input seriously and work with presenters
> in this regard.
>
> The IXP cost sheet[3] that is being maintained by Job I think gives an
> idea of the peering vs transit costs assuming various bitrates and
> list prices.
>
> The fates of IXPs and their roles will naturally resolve itself through
> market economics I suspect.
>
>         - Jared
>
> - snip - links - snip -
> 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_Is_Too_Damn_High_Party
> 2 - https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog67/survey
> 3 -
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ztPX_ysWYqEhJlf2SKQQsTNRbkwoxPSfaC6ScEZAG8/edit#gid=0