Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed

Sat Jun 4 00:41:13 UTC 2016

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On 4 June 2016 at 01:35, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> I think the day that Netflix tells me to turn off IPv6 or doesn’t serve me
> content
> because one of my routes to the internet for IPv6 is via an HE tunnel (the
> other
> two are different tunnels, but all of my IPv4 also goes through tunnels)
> will be the
> day I tell Netflix that I will turn them off instead.
>
> Let’s face it folks, if we want to encourage Netflix to tell the content
> providers
> to give up the silly geo-shit, then we have to stop patronizing channels
> that do
> silly geo-shit.
>
> The only real impact is to vote with your $$$ and tell the companies you
> are
> unsubscribing from exactly why you are unsubscribing.
>
> So far, I haven’t run into an issue where I couldn’t get what I wanted to
> watch
> via a tunnel I was able to set up. When/If Netflix gets good enough to
> detect
> and block my tunnel, I’ll stop using Netflix and stop paying them. I’ll
> also
> make sure that they know why.
>
> I’m sure if they lose enough customers for this reason, they’ll choose to
> do something
> about it with their content providers. After all, the fewer subscribers
> Netflix has,
> the less they pay the content providers, too.
>
> Sure, nobody cares about my $10/month or whatever it’s up to these days,
> but if a
> few thousand of us start walking off and it starts to look like a trend,
> it can
> change things.
>
> Owen
>
> > On Jun 3, 2016, at 17:17 , Cryptographrix <cryptographrix at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Very true. Telling people to turn off IPv6 support through their customer
> > service portal is completely infuriating for those that can't get IPv6
> > through their ISP and need it.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:13 PM Spencer Ryan <sryan at arbor.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes but HE doesn't serve residential users directly. To a normal person
> HE
> >> is no different than NTT/GTT/Verizon/Sprint/Any other transit carrier.
> They
> >> may move the most v6 traffic, but Comcast is the largest ISP actually
> >> getting v6 to end users.
> >>
> >>
> >> *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan at arbor.net
> >> *Arbor Networks*
> >> +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m)
> >> www.arbornetworks.com
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Cryptographrix <
> cryptographrix at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't remember the source, but I do remember that even with Comcast's
> >>> deployment, HE still represented the majority of IPv6 traffic in the
> US.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, it could just be a bunch of us heavy IPv6 users.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:03 PM Spencer Ryan <sryan at arbor.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Comcast is near 100% on their DOCSIS network (Busniess and
> residential).
> >>>> That should be the largest single ISP for IPv6 for end users in the
> USA.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan at arbor.net
> >>>> *Arbor Networks*
> >>>> +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m)
> >>>> www.arbornetworks.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Cryptographrix <
> cryptographrix at gmail.com
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Depends - how many US users have native IPv6 through their ISPs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I remember correctly (I can't find the source at the moment),
> HE.net
> >>>>> represents something like 70% of IPv6 traffic in the US.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And yeah, not doing that - actually in the middle of an IPv6 project
> at
> >>>>> work at the moment that's a bit important to me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:45 PM Baldur Norddahl <
> >>>>> baldur.norddahl at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Den 4. jun. 2016 01.26 skrev "Cryptographrix" <
> >>>>> cryptographrix at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The information I'm getting from Netflix support now is explicitly
> >>>>>> telling
> >>>>>>> me to turn off IPv6 - someone might want to stop them before they
> >>>>>>> completely kill US IPv6 adoption.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not allowing he.net tunnels is not killing ipv6. You just need need
> >>>>> native
> >>>>>> ipv6.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the other hand it would be nice if Netflix would try the other
> >>>>> protocol
> >>>>>> before blocking.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>