cloudflare hosting a ddos service?

Wed Jul 27 02:17:53 UTC 2016

Plus, it’s good for business!

-Phil

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:14 PM, jim deleskie <deleskie at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> sigh...
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick at ianai.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> CloudFlare will claim they are not hosting the problem. They are just
>> hosting the web page that lets you pay for or points at or otherwise
>> directs you to the problem.
>> 
>> The actual source of packets is some other IP address. Therefore, they can
>> keep hosting the web page. It is not sending the actual
>> [spam|DDoS|hack|etc.], right? So stop asking them to do something about it!
>> 
>> Whether you think that is the proper way to provide service on the
>> Internet is left as an exercise to the reader.
>> 
>> --
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Mike <mike-nanog at tiedyenetworks.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>   So vbooter.org's dns and web is hosted by cloudflare?
>>> 
>>> "Using vBooter you can take down home internet connections, websites and
>> game servers such us Minecraft, XBOX Live, PSN and many more."
>>> 
>>>   dig -t ns vbooter.org
>>> 
>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.8-Ubuntu <<>> -t ns vbooter.org
>>> ;; global options: +cmd
>>> ;; Got answer:
>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62177
>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
>>> 
>>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>> ;vbooter.org.            IN    NS
>>> 
>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>> vbooter.org.        21599    IN    NS    rick.ns.cloudflare.com.
>>> vbooter.org.        21599    IN    NS    amy.ns.cloudflare.com.
>>> 
>>> dig -t a www.vbooter.org
>>> 
>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.8-Ubuntu <<>> -t a www.vbooter.org
>>> ;; global options: +cmd
>>> ;; Got answer:
>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34920
>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
>>> 
>>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>> ;www.vbooter.org.        IN    A
>>> 
>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>> www.vbooter.org.    299    IN    CNAME    vbooter.org.
>>> vbooter.org.        299    IN    A    104.28.13.7
>>> vbooter.org.        299    IN    A    104.28.12.7
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Can anyone from cloudflare answer me why this fits with your business
>> model?
>>> 
>>> Mike-
>> 
>> 