GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

Mon Apr 11 20:54:40 UTC 2016

Or (90S,0), so they get a bit of fresh air and have some time think
during the voyage :-)

On 4/11/16 2:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Or 0,0, send the FBI to Africa on a boating trip.  that would probably be
> easier than "unknown" or "null".
> 
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> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo at slabnet.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> On Mon 2016-Apr-11 13:02:14 -0400, Ken Chase <math at sizone.org> wrote:
>>
>> TL;DR: GeoIP put unknown IP location mappings to the 'center of the
>>> country'
>>> but then rounded off the lat long so it points at this farm.
>>>
>>> Cant believe law enforcement is using this kind of info to execute
>>> searches.
>>> Wouldnt that undermine the credibility of any evidence brought up in
>>> trials
>>> for any geoip locates?
>>>
>>> Seems to me locating unknowns somewhere in the middle of a big lake or
>>> park in
>>> the center of the country might be a better idea.
>>>
>>
>> ...how about actually marking an unknown as...oh, I dunno: "unknown"?  Is
>> there no analogue in the GeoIP lookups for a 404?
>>
>>
>>> /kc
>>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:55:11AM -0500, Chris Boyd said:
>>>  >
>>>  >Interesting article.
>>>  >
>>>  >http://fusion.net/story/287592/internet-mapping-glitch-kansas-farm/
>>>  >
>>>  >An hour???s drive from Wichita, Kansas, in a little town called Potwin,
>>>  >there is a 360-acre piece of land with a very big problem.
>>>  >
>>>  >The plot has been owned by the Vogelman family for more than a hundred
>>>  >years, though the current owner, Joyce Taylor n??e Vogelman, 82, now
>>>  >rents it out. The acreage is quiet and remote: a farm, a pasture, an old
>>>  >orchard, two barns, some hog shacks and a two-story house. It???s the
>>> kind
>>>  >of place you move to if you want to get away from it all. The nearest
>>>  >neighbor is a mile away, and the closest big town has just 13,000
>>>  >people. It is real, rural America; in fact, it???s a two-hour drive from
>>>  >the exact geographical center of the United States.
>>>  >
>>>  >But instead of being a place of respite, the people who live on Joyce
>>>  >Taylor???s land find themselves in a technological horror story.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >For the last decade, Taylor and her renters have been visited by all
>>>  >kinds of mysterious trouble. They???ve been accused of being identity
>>>  >thieves, spammers, scammers and fraudsters. They???ve gotten visited by
>>>  >FBI agents, federal marshals, IRS collectors, ambulances searching for
>>>  >suicidal veterans, and police officers searching for runaway children.
>>>  >They???ve found people scrounging around in their barn. The renters have
>>>  >been doxxed, their names and addresses posted on the internet by
>>>  >vigilantes. Once, someone left a broken toilet in the driveway as a
>>>  >strange, indefinite threat.
>>>  >
>>>  >--Chris
>>>  >
>>>
>>