Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
Daniel Taylor
dtaylor at vocalabs.com
Mon Mar 2 14:59:40 UTC 2015
What do those 25 and 50Mb/s download rates amount to in practice?
Statistically speaking, those might *be* symmetric.
On 03/02/2015 08:41 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
>
> Daniel,
> For the third or fourth time in this discussion we are tracking and
> customer satisfaction for users who do have symmetrical bandwidth >24
> mbps and have for a number of years.
>
> We see customer usage patterns and satisfaction being statically the
> same on 25/25 and 25/8 accounts. The same is true when we look at
> 50/50 versus 50/12 accounts.
>
> On Mar 2, 2015 9:22 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor at vocalabs.com
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm clearly not a normal user, or I wouldn't be here.
> Normal users have never experienced high-speed symmetrical service.
>
> People don't miss what they have never had.
>
> On 03/02/2015 08:09 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
>
>
> That's not the norm for consumers, but the important thing to
> understand is that for most of the technologies we use for
> broadband there simply is less upstream capacity than
> downstream. That upstream scarcity means that for DSL,
> DOCSIS, PON, WiFi, and LTE delivering symmetrical upstream
> bandwidth will cost the service provider more which means at
> some point it will cost consumers more.
>
> WiFi is a special case, while there is no theoretical reason
> it must be asymmetrical but it works that way in practice
> because dedicated APs invariably have both higher transmit
> power and much better antenna gain. The average AP in the US
> will put out a watt or more while clients are putting out ~250
> milliwatts and with 0 antenna gain.
>
> On Mar 2, 2015 8:58 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor at vocalabs.com
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>>> wrote:
>
> Personally?
> If the price were the same, I'd go with 50/50.
>
> That way my uploads would take even less time.
>
> It isn't about the averaged total, it's about how long
> each event
> takes, and backing up 4GB of files off-site shouldn't have
> to take
> an hour.
>
> On 02/27/2015 03:11 PM, Scott Helms wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
>
> "50MB/s might be tough to fill, but even at home I can get
> good use out of the odd 25MB/s upstream burst for a
> few minutes."
>
> Which would you choose, 50/50 or 75/25? My point is
> not that
> upstream speed isn't valuable, but merely that demand
> for it
> isn't symmetrical and unless the market changes won't
> be in
> the near term. Downstream demand is growing, in most
> markets
> I can see, much faster than upstream demand.
>
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000 <tel:%28678%29%20507-5000>
> <tel:%28678%29%20507-5000>
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>
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