Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network setup?

Sat Jun 20 03:50:10 UTC 2015

My equipment that can't do 5.4 with the latest stable or beta firmware says
you can't. Hopefully we get 5.1 "soon". :)

Josh Luthman
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On Jun 19, 2015 11:36 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal at snappytelecom.net> wrote:

> FCC Cert claims different.
>
> :)
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> Faisal Imtiaz
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *"Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal at snappytelecom.net>
> *Cc: *"NANOG list" <nanog at nanog.org>, "Ray Soucy" <rps at maine.edu>
> *Sent: *Friday, June 19, 2015 9:16:37 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network
> setup?
>
> Uhm he's not wrong...
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 19, 2015 9:13 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal at snappytelecom.net> wrote:
>
>> >>>The thing you need to watch out for with Ubiquiti is that they don't
>> support DFS, so the entire U-NII-2 channel space is off limits for 5 GHz.
>>
>> Huh ????
>>
>> Please verify your facts before making blanket statements which are not
>> accurate ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Ray Soucy" <rps at maine.edu>
>> > To: "Sina Owolabi" <notify.sina at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: "nanog at nanog.org list" <nanog at nanog.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:07:01 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network
>> setup?
>> >
>> > I know you don't want to hear this answer because of cost but I've had
>> good
>> > luck with Cisco for very high density (about 1,000 clients in a packed
>> > auditorium actively using the network as they follow along with the
>> > presenter).
>> >
>> > The thing you need to watch out for with Ubiquiti is that they don't
>> > support DFS, so the entire U-NII-2 channel space is off limits for 5
>> GHz.
>> > That's pretty significant because you're limited to 9 x 20 MHz channels
>> or
>> > 4 x 40 MHz channels.  Keeping the power level down and creating small
>> cells
>> > is essential for high density, so with less channels your hands are
>> really
>> > tied in that case.  Also, avoid the Zero Handoff marketing nonsense they
>> > advertise; I'm sure it can work great for a low client residential area
>> but
>> > it requires all APs to share a single channel and depends upon
>> coordinating
>> > only one active transmitter at a time, so it simply won't scale.
>> >
>> > I don't have experience with other vendors at large scale or high
>> density.
>> >
>> > I don't think what you're talking about is really high density anymore
>> > though.  That's just normal coverage.  Wireless is a lot more
>> complicated
>> > than selecting a vendor, though.  If you know what you're doing even
>> > Ubiquiti could work decently, but if you don't even a Cisco solution
>> won't
>> > save you.  You really need to be on top of surveying correctly and
>> having
>> > appropriate AP placement and channel distribution.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Sina Owolabi <notify.sina at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi
>> > >
>> > > We are profiling equipment and design for an expected high user
>> density
>> > > network of multiple, close nit, residential/hostel units. Its going
>> to be
>> > > 8-10 buildings with possibly a over 1000 users at any given time.
>> > > We are looking at Ruckus and Ubiquiti as options to get over the high
>> > > number of devices we are definitely going to encounter.
>> > >
>> > > How did you do it, and what would you advise for product and layout?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance!
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ray Patrick Soucy
>> > Network Engineer
>> > University of Maine System
>> >
>> > T: 207-561-3526
>> > F: 207-561-3531
>> >
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>> > www.maineren.net
>> >
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