Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"?

Thu Jul 16 02:32:19 UTC 2015

In message <55A682E6.1050607 at matthew.at>, Matthew Kaufman writes:
> On 7/14/2015 11:22 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
> >
> > Yet I can take a Windows XP box.  Tell it to enable IPv6 and it
> > just works.  Everything that a node needed existed when Windows XP
> > was released.  The last 15 years has been waiting for ISP's and CPE
> > vendors to deliver IPv6 as a product.  This is not to say that every
> > vendor deployed all the parts of the protocol properly but they
> > existed.
> 
> This is only true for dual-stacked networks. I just tried to set up an 
> IPv6-only WiFi network at my house recently, and it was a total fail due 
> to non-implementation of relatively new standards... starting with the 
> fact that my Juniper SRX doesn't run a load new enough to include RDNSS 
> information in RAs, and some of the devices I wanted to test with 
> (Android tablets) won't do DHCPv6.

You can blame the religious zealots that insisted that everything
DHCP does has to also be done via RA's.  This means that everyone
has to implement everything twice.  Something Google should have
realised when they releases Android.

> The XP box is in an even worse situation if you try to run it on a 
> v6-only network.

Which is fixable with a third party DHCPv6 client / manual configuration
of the nameservers.

> And yet we've known for years now that dual-stack wasn't going to be an 
> acceptable solution, because nobody was on track to get to 100% IPv6 
> before IPv4 runout happened.
> 
> Go to any business with hardware that is 3-5 years old in its IT 
> infrastructure and devices ranging from PCs running XP to the random 
> consumer gear people bring in (cameras, printers, tablets, etc.) and see 
> how easy it is to get everything talking on an IPv6-only (no IPv4 at 
> all) network... including using IPv6 to do automatic updates and all the 
> other pieces that need to work. We're nowhere near ready for that.

None of which is the fault of the protocol.  Blame the equipement vendors
for being negligent.

> Matthew Kaufman
> 
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