Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

Fri Feb 27 21:13:30 UTC 2015

I'll move on. I'm sorry you're not interested in reasonable discussion. 

 -mel beckman

> On Feb 27, 2015, at 1:01 PM, "William Herrin" <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> wrote:
>> I did not change "whenever I demand it" to "all the time". You're
>> hand-waving now. I clearly said that users can't all demand their maximum
>> bandwidth at the same time. That's nothing like "all the time."
> 
> Fine. You changed "whenever I demand it" to "at the same time as
> everybody else." The change still makes it a straw man argument. You
> introduce simultaneity, which you don't substantiate and which is not
> present in my statement. That red herring undermines your argument
> that doing, "everything reasonably within your power to make sure I
> can access the Internet sites of my choice" at full rate is
> "infeasible."
> 
> 
>> Your shower example is perfect. Yes, you can get 120A tankless water heating
>> for a brief interval. But not "whenever you demand it."
> 
> I get it _every_ time I demand it because the local power company has
> done a good job with their oversubscription planning. Even with other
> households engaged in bathing activity during the morning hours..
> 
> 
>> You never responded to my "BillsNet" real-world example. Is that a straw-man
>> argument too?
> 
> That would be why I ignored it, yes. Would it make you happy if I pick
> it apart piece by piece or do you want to move on?
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
> -- 
> William Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com  bill at herrin.us
> Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>