Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

McElearney, Kevin Kevin_McElearney at cable.comcast.com
Fri Feb 27 19:49:57 UTC 2015


[Sorry for top-posting]

I actually think you are both right and partially wrong.  It IS the ISPs
responsibility to provide you with the broadband that was advertised and
you paid for.  This is also measured today by the FCC through Measuring
Broadband America. 
http://data.fcc.gov/download/measuring-broadband-america/2014/2014-Fixed-Me
asuring-Broadband-America-Report.pdf

That said, your ISP is NOT “the Internet” and can’t guarantee “access the
Internet sites of my choice at X megabits per second."  While ISPs do take
the phone call for all Internet problems (sometimes not very well), they
certainly don’t control all levels of the QoE.  ASPs may have server/site
issues internally, CDNs may purposely throttle downloads (content owners
contract commits), not all transit ISPs are created equal, TCP distance
limitations, etc.

What would be interesting is if all these rules/principals and
transparency requirements were to be applied to all involved in the
consumer QoE.

	- Kevin

On 2/27/15, 1:34 PM, "Mel Beckman" <mel at beckman.org> wrote:

>Bill,
>
>This is not feasible. ISPs work by oversubscription, so it's never
>possible for all (or even 10% of all) customers to simultaneously demand
>their full bandwidth. If ISPs had to reserve the full bandwidth sold to
>each customer in order to "do everything reasonably within your power to
>make sure I can access the Internet sites of my choice at X megabits per
>second", then broadband connections would cost thousands of dollars per
>month.
>
>Anyone who doesn't understand this fundamental fact of Internet
>distribution will be unable to engage in reasonable discussion about ISP
>practices.
>
>On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 AM, William Herrin
><bill at herrin.us<mailto:bill at herrin.us>>
> wrote:
>
>Deceit is Bad Behavior. If you sell me an X megabit per second
>Internet access service, you should do everything reasonably within
>your power to make sure I can access the Internet sites of my choice
>at X megabits per second.
>



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