gmail spam help
Daniel Taylor
dtaylor at vocalabs.com
Fri Feb 13 14:57:54 UTC 2015
More than one, but I found it here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spamassassin/+bug/1412830
They did patch it after it finally became a problem, I don't know about
any other distributions.
On 02/12/2015 08:09 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>
> Which distro is it that has dnsbl filtering on by default, and also
> defaulting to shady no name blocklists?
>
> I have yet to see a case where turning this sort of thing on first and
> kicking self later wasn't because of a clueless sysadmin.
>
> On Feb 13, 2015 7:36 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor at vocalabs.com
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>> wrote:
>
> Of course not, and I didn't mean to imply that they were.
>
> I was surprised to see it still present *anywhere* (this was in a
> major Linux distribution, and may still be), and that hidden
> presence may be polluting data streams used by even the most
> responsible vendors unless they are running entirely self-contained.
>
> On 02/12/2015 07:04 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>
>
> Please. Gmail isn't ever likely to use long dead hobbyist
> block lists.
>
> On Feb 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor at vocalabs.com
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>>> wrote:
>
> Possibly related: http://www.ahbl.org/content/changes-ahbl
>
> We had to manually remove it from spamassassin for our local
> installation, and I am pretty sure that a lot of sites still
> haven't figured it out so there's a lot of false positives
> being
> generated all over the place to throw off even filters
> that don't
> use it directly.
>
> On 02/12/2015 09:54 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
>
> Mainly because I own it, and the people who use it.
> The server
> has been around 10+ years and has tight oversight. SPF is
> proper. This is a recent issue.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms at zcorum.com
> <mailto:khelms at zcorum.com>
> <mailto:khelms at zcorum.com <mailto:khelms at zcorum.com>>]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:51 AM
> To: Alex Rubenstein
> Cc: Josh Luthman; NANOG list
> Subject: Re: gmail spam help
>
> I'd be interested to know how you can be so adamant
> about the
> lack of spam from this specific server. A great
> percentage of
> the spam hitting servers I have visibility into comes from
> very similar kinds of set ups because they tend to
> have little
> or no over sight in place.
>
> Also, lots of commercial email gets flagged as spam by
> users,
> even when they opted in for the email. If enough people
> flagged email from this server as spam it will cause
> Google to
> consider other email from the same small server as
> likely to
> be spam as well. Small systems, especially new ones,
> tend to
> unintentionally look like spam sources by not having
> proper
> reverse records, making sure you have SPF set up for the
> domain, etc.
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
> --------------------------------
> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
> --------------------------------
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alex Rubenstein
> <alex at corp.nac.net <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>>>> wrote:
> I should have been clearer.
>
> I have been getting complaints from my sales folks
> that when
> they send emails to people who use gmail (either a gmail
> account or google apps) that they recipient is
> reporting that
> the email is ending up in the Spam folder. So, I
> tested this
> myself, sending an email from alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>>>> to rubenstein45 at gmail.com
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>><mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>>><mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>><mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com
> <mailto:rubenstein45 at gmail.com>>>>
>
> [cid:image001.png at 01D046AD.3B2FA890]
>
> This is curious to me, since @corp.nac.net
> <http://corp.nac.net>
> <http://corp.nac.net><http://corp.nac.net> is a small
> exchange
> implementation with only about 50 users behind it, and
> there
> is no question that there is no spamming going on from
> here.
>
> So, it’s not a question of adding a filter or not
> using gmail;
> it is not me who is using gmail in this problem.
>
>
>
> From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>><mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
> <mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>>>]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:32 AM
> To: Alex Rubenstein
> Cc: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: gmail spam help
>
>
> Create a filter.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 12, 2015 8:11 AM, "Alex Rubenstein"
> <alex at corp.nac.net <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>><mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net
> <mailto:alex at corp.nac.net>>>>> wrote:
> Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world
> -> gmail
> email issue, where email is being considering spam by
> gmail
> erroneously?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -- Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal
> Laboratories, Inc.
> dtaylor at vocalabs.com <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>
> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>>
> http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711
>
>
--
Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal Laboratories, Inc.
dtaylor at vocalabs.com http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711
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