de-peering for security sake

Fri Dec 25 16:32:15 UTC 2015

You know, without actually looking I’m willing to lay money down that the people beating the blocklist drum are the same people who scream the loudest about net neutrality when they can’t actually get to the content they want. 

> On Dec 25, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Daniel Corbe <dcorbe at hammerfiber.com> wrote:
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>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
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>> To the thread, not necessarily Daniel, if blocking countries\continents is a bad thing (not saying I disagree), how do you deal with the flood of trash? Just take it on the chin? 
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> If you as an end user want to be the cyber-equivalent of a xenophobe because OMG BAD INTERNETS then be my guest.  On the other hand, I’m a network operator so I don’t have the luxury of dictating to my users what they can and cannot reach.  
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>> The degree of splash damage by blocking this way will vary based upon what kind of network you are. Residential eyeballs? You could probably block most of a lot of things and people wouldn't notice or care, as long as it wasn't Google, Facebook, Netflix, etc. 
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> As a residential ISP with many first and second generation American immigrants in my service footprint I can assure you this notion is patently false.  People will definitely notice and care if they can’t communicate with their relatives and consume content in their home countries.  
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>> Mike Hammett 
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>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> From: "Daniel Corbe" <dcorbe at hammerfiber.com> 
>> To: "Nick Hilliard" <nick at foobar.org> 
>> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog at nanog.org> 
>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 8:11:55 AM 
>> Subject: Re: de-peering for security sake 
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>>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Nick Hilliard <nick at foobar.org> wrote: 
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>>> Daniel Corbe wrote: 
>>>> Let’s just cut off the entirety of the third world instead of having 
>>>> a tangible mitigation plan in place. 
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>>> You mean, cut off Sweden, Ireland, Finland, Switzerland and Israel? 
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>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World 
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>>> What an enormously silly idea. 
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>>> Seasons greetings to all, 
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>>> Nick 
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>> It was a stupid idea even before you corrected me. 
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