Google Apps for ISPs -- Lingering fallout

Scott Helms khelms at zcorum.com
Mon Aug 24 13:33:41 UTC 2015


Ryan,

>From what I've seen a myriad of solutions.  A lot of the people I know that
wanted a full functionality replacement switched to Hyperoffice:
http://www.hyperoffice.com/sp/google-apps.php

Some others went to Zimbra:
https://www.zimbra.com/

Others went to a variety of less functional but also less expensive
solutions that look more like traditional ISP email.

It really depended on how much the ISP thought their end users wanted the
"Google like" functionality.


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Ryan Finnesey <ryan at finnesey.com> wrote:

> I have been working on putting together a program to work with ISPs to
> offer Office 365 I was thinking the Google Apps for ISP shutdown would be
> an opportunity but it seem to be a very different price point.  I have done
> a large number of Google App to Office 365 migration but Google was
> charging  around $12 per user.    Also a lot within the nonprofit space
>  witch is a free license.  What system did most ISPs move to?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Scott Helms [mailto:khelms at zcorum.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2015 8:35 AM
> *To:* Ryan Finnesey <ryan at finnesey.com>
> *Cc:* Gary Greene <ggreene at minervanetworks.com>; Shawn L <shawnl at up.net>;
> nanog <nanog at nanog.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Google Apps for ISPs -- Lingering fallout
>
>
>
> Ryan,
>
>
>
> Most certainly, the charges varied some  because of size and other factors
> but it was around 25 cents monthly per Gmail box.
>
>
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
> --------------------------------
> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Ryan Finnesey <ryan at finnesey.com> wrote:
>
> Was Google charging ISPs for this service?
>
> Cheers
> Ryan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org] On Behalf Of Gary Greene
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:18 PM
> To: Shawn L <shawnl at up.net>
> Cc: nanog <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Google Apps for ISPs -- Lingering fallout
>
> You’ll need to escalate this with Google. If the front-end support team
> cannot help, move up the chain as far as you can. It should eventually
> reach the PM that worked on the turn-down of that service and get some
> action.
>
> --
> Gary L. Greene, Jr.
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> IT Operations
> Minerva Networks, Inc.
> Cell: +1 (650) 704-6633
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Shawn L <shawnl at up.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know there are others on this list who used Google Apps for ISPs and
> recently migrated off (as the service was discontinued).
> >
> > We have had several cases where the user had a YouTube channel or Picasa
> photo albums, etc. that they created with their Google Apps for ISPs
> credentials.  Now that the service is gone, those channels and albums still
> exist but the users are unable to login to them or manage them in any way
> because it tells them that their account has been disabled.
> >
> > Of course, Google had been un-responsive to all of our (and the
> customer's) inquiries about how to fix this.
> >
> > Has anyone else run into this and found a way around it?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> > Shawn
> >
>
>
>



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