RES: Exploits start against flaw that could hamstring huge swaths of

Tue Aug 4 15:46:51 UTC 2015

Automation just means your mistake goes many more places more quickly.
On Aug 4, 2015 9:38 AM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Scott Helms <khelms at zcorum.com> wrote:
> > With the (large) caveat that heterogenous networks are more subject to
> > human error in many cases.
>
> <cough>automate!</cough>
>
> > On Aug 4, 2015 9:25 AM, "Joe Greco" <jgreco at ns.sol.net> wrote:
> >
> >> > So, you guys recommend replace Bind for another option ?
> >>
> >> No.  Replacing one occasionally faulty product with another occasionally
> >> faulty product is foolish.  There's no particular reason to think that
> >> another product will be impervious to code bugs.  What I was suggesting
> >> was to use several different devices, much as some networks prefer to
> >> buy some Cisco gear and some Juniper gear and make them redundant, or
> >> as a well-built ZFS storage array consists of drives from different
> >> manufacturers.
> >>
> >> Heterogeneous environments tend to be more resilient because they are
> >> less likely to all suffer the same defect at once.  Problems still
> result
> >> in some pain and trouble, but it usually doesn't result in a service
> >> outage.
> >>
> >> This doesn't seem like a horribly catastrophic bug in any case.  Anyone
> >> who is reliant on a critical bit like a DNS server probably has it set
> >> up to automatically restart if it doesn't exit cleanly.  If you don't,
> >> you should!
> >>
> >> So if it matters to you, I suggest that you instead use a combination
> >> of different products, and you'll be more resilient.  If you have two
> >> recursers for your customers, one can be BIND and one can be Unbound.
> >> And when some critical vuln comes along and knocks out Unbound, you'll
> >> still be resolving names.  Ditto BIND.  You're not likely to see both
> >> happen at the same time.
> >>
> >> However, at least here, we actually *use* TSIG updates, and other
> >> functionality that'd be hard to replace (BIND9 is pretty much THE only
> >> option for some functionality).
> >>
> >> ... JG
> >> --
> >> Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
> http://www.sol.net
> >> "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and]
> >> then I
> >> won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail
> >> spam(CNN)
> >> With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many
> >> apples.
> >>
>