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John Levine johnl at iecc.com
Fri Oct 10 18:21:29 UTC 2014


>But other than providing more warning, what would have been a better
>way to start eliminating forged senders?  Everything I've read
>indicates that both Yahoo and AOL did this with eyes wide open.

A good move would have been to improve their security so that AOL and
Yahoo didn't have massive thefts of their customers' address book data
(two separate times for one of them.)  This meant that their users
were getting large amounts of spam "from" people they knew, sent from
outside of their networks.

AOL and Yahoo made narrowly rational decisions to push the cost of
their security failures onto the rest of the world.  I understand why
they did it, but that doesn't mean we have to like it, or to cut them
any slack about it.

R's,
John



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