Carrier Grade NAT
Owen DeLong
owen at delong.com
Wed Jul 30 15:45:21 UTC 2014
The only actual residential data I can offer is my own. I am fully dual stack and about 40% of my traffic is IPv6. I am a netflix subscriber, but also an amazon prime member.
I will say that if amazon would get off the dime and support IPv6, it would make a significant difference.
Other than amazon and my financial institutions and Kaiser, living without IPv4 wouldn't actually pose a hardship as near as I can tell from my day without v4 experiment on June 6.
I know Kaiser is working on it. Amazon apparently recently hired Yuri Rich to work on their issues. So that would leave my financial institutions.
I think we are probably less than 5 years from residential IPv4 becoming a service that carries a surcharge, if available.
Owen
> On Jul 29, 2014, at 22:42, Julien Goodwin <nanog at studio442.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 29/07/14 22:22, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:
>>> In message <20140729225352.GO7836 at hezmatt.org>, Matt Palmer writes:
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 09:28:53AM +1200, Tony Wicks wrote:
>>>>> 2. IPv6 is nice (dual stack) but the internet without IPv4 is not a viable
>>>>> thing, perhaps one day, but certainly not today (I really hate clueless
>>>>> people who shout to the hills that IPv6 is the "solution" for today's
>>>>> internet access)
>>>>
>>>> Do you have IPv6 deployed and available to your entire customer base, so
>>>> that those who want to use it can do so? To my way of thinking, CGNAT is
>>>> probably going to be the number one driver of IPv6 adoption amongst the
>>>> broad customer base, *as long as their ISP provides it*.
>>>
>>> Add to that over half your traffic will switch to IPv6 as long as
>>> the customer has a IPv6 capable CPE. That's a lot less logging you
>>> need to do from day 1.
>>
>> That would be nice, but I’m not 100% convinced that it is true.
>>
>> Though it will be an increasing percentage over time.
>>
>> Definitely a good way of reducing the load on your CGN, with the additional benefit
>> that your network is part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
>
> Being on the content provider side I don't know the actual percentages
> in practice, but in the NANOG region you've got Google/Youtube, NetFlix,
> Akamai & Facebook all having a significant amount of their services v6
> native.
>
> I'd be very surprised if these four together weren't a majority of any
> consumer-facing network's traffic in peak times.
More information about the NANOG
mailing list