PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

Fri Jun 21 19:11:13 UTC 2013

Hah!

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Warren Bailey <
wbailey at satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:

> The United States Constitution*
>
> *See Terms and Conditions for details, not all citizens apply, void where
> prohibited, subject to change at any time.
>
> On 6/21/13 11:42 AM, "Phil Fagan" <philfagan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I guess the moral here is....don't do anything "wrong."
> >
> >:-D
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> >> > On Jun 21, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Phil Fagan <philfagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> I would think this is only an issue if they throw out the Fourth in
> >> that when
> >> >> they use that data collected "inadvertantly" to build a case a
> >>against
> >> you
> >> >> they use no other data collected under a proper warrant.
> >> >
> >> > That statement ignores a longstanding legal principle known as "fruit
> >>of
> >> the poison tree".
> >>
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> In spite of what you may have seen on TV, law enforcement is not
> >> required to ignore evidence of a crime which turns up during a lawful
> >> search merely because it's evidence of a different crime. Fruit of the
> >> poisonous tree applies when the original search for whatever it was
> >> they were originally looking for is unlawful. Supposedly the FISA
> >> court found the NSA's troll for terrorists to be lawful. Once that's
> >> true, evidence of any crime may be lawfully introduced in court.
> >>
> >>
> >> For a fun read, check out the Ilustrated Guide to Criminal Law:
> >> http://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=18
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Bill Herrin
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com  bill at herrin.us
> >> 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
> >> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >Phil Fagan
> >Denver, CO
> >970-480-7618
>
>

-- 
Phil Fagan
Denver, CO
970-480-7618