10 Mbit/s problem in your network

Mon Feb 11 08:25:58 UTC 2013

When staying at Homestead a few years back, they would close my Internet
connection, because I was downloading movies via peer to peer. It took me
a while and escalating to a relatively competent network engineer to
figure it out: "Mate, I don't have any p2p software installed, may be my
computer is hacked, tell me what traffic you see that triggers your
system, so I can investigate". I came down that they did not like my Skype
trying to re-establish connections with contacts in Asia/Pacific (where I
lived then), instead of the USA.

I also organized conferences, and putting more than 20 people (with
various OS/hacked machines) on the same access point, is not standard
operations as in a company, you need some experience with that, something
that some ISPs (who were sponsoring the Internet) failed to understand.

On 2/9/13 7:55 PM, "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc at gmail.com> wrote:

>Dear NANOG@,
>
>In light of the recent discussion titled, "The 100 Gbit/s problem in
>your network", I'd like to point out that smaller operators and
>end-sites are currently very busy having and ignoring the 10 Mbit/s
>problem in their networks.
>
>Hotels in major metro areas, for example.  Some have great
>connectivity (e.g. through high-capacity microwave links), and always
>have a latency of between 5ms and 15ms to the nearest internet
>exchange, and YouTube and Netflix just work, always, and nearly
>flawlessly, and in full HD.
>
>Others think that load-balancing 150+ rooms with Fast Ethernet and
>WiFi in every room, plus a couple of conference/meeting rooms (e.g.
>potentially more than a single /24 worth of all sorts of devices) on a
>couple of independent T1 and ADSL links is an acceptable practice.
>Yes, a T1 and an ADSL, with some kind of Layer 3 / 4 balancing!  This
>is at a time when it would not be uncommon to travel with an Apple TV
>or a Roku.  And then not only even YouTube and cbs.com don't work, but
>an average latency of above 500ms is not unusual in the evenings, and
>ssh is practically unusable.  (Or sometimes they do the balancing
>wrong, and the ssh connections simply break every minute due to the
>broken balancer.)
>
>And this happens even with boutique hotels like the Joie de Vivre
>brand in the Silicon Valley (Wild Palms on El Camino Real in Sunnyvale
>has an absolutely horrible bandwidth even when it's half empty), or
>with brand-new properties like Hyatt Place in the hometown of a rather
>famous ILEC that has the whole town glassed up with fiber-optics (the
>place is less than 2 years old, and Google Maps still shows it as
>being constructed, yet independent T1 and ADSL links from two distinct
>ILECs is the only connectivity they have!).
>
>How should end-users deal with such broadband incompetence; why do
>local carriers allow businesses to abuse their connections and their
>own customers in such ways; why do the sub-contracted internet support
>companies design and support such broken-by-design setups?
>
>When you are staying at a 3* hotel, should you have no expectations
>that you'll be getting at least a 3Mbps pipe and at least an under
>100ms average latency, and won't be getting a balancer that would be
>breaking up your ssh sessions?
>
>Best regards,
>Constantine.
>