RFC 1149

Thu Apr 4 03:20:07 UTC 2013

Steve, would you post that on a webpage somewhere? :-)
- jra

Steven Bellovin <smb at cs.columbia.edu> wrote:

>
>On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steven Bellovin" <smb at cs.columbia.edu>
>> 
>>> DLT? I first heard it as a station wagon full of (9-track, 1600 bpi,
>>> that having been the state of the art) mag tapes on the Taconic
>Parkway,
>>> circa 1970. I suspect, though, that Herman Hollerith expressed the
>idea
>>> about a stage coach full of punchcards, back in the 1880s.
>> 
>> The earliest reference to this I've been able to pin down is Andy
>Tanenbaum's,
>> and TTBOMK -- and you of all people should know this, Steve -- he was
>talking
>> about Usenet, which a few sites actually *got feeds of on magtape*,
>in the
>> very early 80s.  Some of those tapes, in addition to UTZoo's backups
>of their
>> spool, constituted the very earliest material given to Dejagoo.
>> 
>Yes, I know that story.  I'm talking what was said to me personally --
>not
>hearsay, earwitness evidence.  The road mentioned was the Taconic
>Parkway, part
>of the direct route between where I was working at the time (IBM Watson
>Lab #2,
>http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/watsonlab.html) and IBM
>Yorktown --
>https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=612+West+115th+Street,+New+York,+NY&daddr=ibm+watson+labs,+yorktown,+ny&hl=en&ll=41.027571,-73.66745&spn=0.872312,0.95993&sll=40.807717,-73.965464&sspn=0.013675,0.014999&geocode=FSWtbgIdaGCX-ylpY-dMOfbCiTEUPDIPtH_nMw%3BFfTUdAIdCtuZ-yF0j-k3CpyMSikvG-JPT7jCiTF0j-k3CpyMSg&mra=ls&t=m&z=10
>The context was the speed of an RJE link between the IBM 1130 I was
>running
>(http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/1130.html) and a mainframe
>in Yorktown.  (If memory serves, it was a 2400 bps half-duplex link,
>probably
>via a Bell 201 "data set".  I don't remember for sure, though.  Anyway,
>that
>was my first contact with networking, though I worried more about the
>host part of it.  I did learn bisync rather thoroughly in my next gig,
>at City College of New York Computer Center, at that time the central
>computing hub for the entire City University system.)
>
>
>		--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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