Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

Wed May 23 05:07:52 UTC 2012

On May 22, 2012, at 9:10 PM, bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com wrote:

> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:52:52PM -0700, Michael J Wise wrote:
>> 
>> On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> 
>>> father of bind?  that's news.
>> 
>> 	<http://boingboing.net/2012/03/29/paul-vixies-firsthand-accoun.html>
>> 
>> He was there, and Put The Fix In, to down the network.
> 
> 	Certainly news to Phil Almquist and the entire BIND development team
> 	at UCB.   Paul was at DECWRL and cut his teeth on pre-existing code.
> 	While he (and ISC) have since revised, gutted, tossed all the orginal
> 	code, rebuilt it twice - and others have done similar for their DNS
> 	software,  based on the BIND code base, implementation assumptions, and 
> 	with little or no ISC code, and they call it BIND as well,  it would be 
> 	a HUGE leap of faith to call Paul Vixie the father of 
> 		BIND - The Berkeley Internet Naming Daemon.

Methinks we're talking at cross purposes.

> 	As for being there and "Put The Fix In"...  Makes for great PR but 
> 	in actual fact, its a bandaid that is not going to stem the tide.
> 	An actual fix would really need to change the nature of the creaky
> 	1980's implementation artifacts that this community loves so well.

I don't think we're talking about the same thing at all.
Paul was there to shut down the DNS changer system and replace it with something that restored functionality to the infected machines.
And I gather Paul will be one of the people who will turn the lights out on it.

Your other comments are non-sequitur to the main issue.
When those servers are turned off, Customer Support folks at many ISPs will prolly want to take their accrued vacation.

Aloha,
Michael.
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