Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)

Sat Mar 24 18:41:43 UTC 2012

Around the 2004 timeframe the RBOCs were having a discussion with the FCC,
basically saying that if the FCC did not apply unbundling to their fiber
builds they would build fiber, and that if the FCC did apply unbundling
rules they would not.  The FCC wanted fiber deployed, so they withheld
applying unbundling rules.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysidia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 8:47 PM
To: John T. Yocum
Cc: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:28 PM, John T. Yocum
<john.yocum at fluidhosting.com> wrote:
> VZ wants to get rid of their copper plant. It's expensive to maintain, and

As opposed to fiber plant which is indestructible and cheap to maintain?

Well, if VZ owns the copper, if it's not being used to provide a
service, and the price of
copper keeps going up,  it's only a matter of time before VZ should
want to take their bits of unused cable back.   How useful is leaving
a dormant loop in place just because someone might theoretically want
it someday?

Seems like a waste for VZ not to reclaim it  so it can be recycled/put
to good use.

> it requires that they sell service to competitors. Once they've
disconnected
> their customers from it, they can just eliminate the copper plant. POTS

You sure the regulations won't eventually be updated to apply some
rules to whatever POTS is being replaced with?     Possibly years
before they could finish eliminating their copper plant,  which
doesn't likely happen until the pricing allows POTS  customers  to get FiOS
delivery installed for free as a cheaper alternative to POTS delivery.

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-JH