AAAA's for www.netflix.com

David Temkin dave at temk.in
Fri Jun 8 15:26:04 UTC 2012


On 6/8/12 1:19 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
>
>     Netflix may have created its own IPv6-specific domain which is
>     responsible for almost a third of all IPv6 traffic. If this is the
>     case it might not be in full compliance with the spirit of World
>     IPv6 Day, as the aim should have been for Netflix to operate one
>     single domain with both AAAA records for IPv6 and A records for IPv4.
>
>
> What about that?

I've asked Sandvine to explain exactly what this means.  We haven't 
created anything IPv6 specific, aside from starting to serve 100% of our 
IPv6 traffic from the Netflix CDN instead of our CDN partners, which is 
irrelevant to this actual exercise.


>
> j
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:31 AM, David Temkin <dave at temk.in 
> <mailto:dave at temk.in>> wrote:
> > On 6/7/12 10:23 PM, Daniel Roesen wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 12:11:20PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> $ dig @pdns3.ultradns.org <http://pdns3.ultradns.org> 
> www.netflix.com <http://www.netflix.com>. A +norec +short
> >>>> wwwservice--frontend-313423742.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com 
> <http://wwwservice--frontend-313423742.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com>.
> >>>> $ dig @pdns3.ultradns.org <http://pdns3.ultradns.org> 
> www.netflix.com <http://www.netflix.com>. AAAA +norec +short
> >>>> 
> dualstack.wwwservice--frontend-313423742.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com 
> <http://dualstack.wwwservice--frontend-313423742.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com>.
> >>>> $ dig @pdns3.ultradns.org <http://pdns3.ultradns.org> 
> www.netflix.com <http://www.netflix.com>. ANY +short +norec
> >>>> $
> >>>>
> >>>> Resolving www.netflix.com <http://www.netflix.com> using ANY 
> RRtype fails with an empty answer
> >>>> section in the DNS response.
> >>>
> >>> Which is just plain BROKEN.
> >>
> >> Yup.
> >>
> >>>> This DNS trickery seems to be from the "taking a shower, trying not
> >>>> to get wet" department. And has adverse effects in corner cases. 
> While
> >>>> playing around, I had periods of time where I couldn't resolve 
> the FQDN
> >>>> at all, possibly due some caching of the empty response.
> >>>
> >>> It's not DNS trickery.
> >>
> >> The "trickery" is returning different CNAMEs for QTYPE=A and 
> QTYPE=AAAA.
> >> I'm not sure what's the goal of that is, but it's 4am here so I have an
> >> excuse of not seeing the light. :)
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Daniel
> >>
> > We've confirmed that UltraDNS had "additional" issues caused by the push
> > that they fixed for the previously reported problem.  We are actively
> > engaged with them to come to a resolution.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
>
>
>
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