iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers?

Sat Sep 3 14:24:59 UTC 2011

That is only for musicŠ Photos will be the big killer, documents and
iDevice backups as well.

ŠSkeeve

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Khomyakov <khomyakov.andrey at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 08:52:37 -0400
To: "nanog at nanog.org" <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers?

>My understanding was that the whole point of iCloud is to not upload but
>rather use Apple's stored music files as long as you have them in your
>library. You have a valid point however with other similar services, like
>amazon's. But that's been out for a while.
>
>--Andrey
>
>
>On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Skeeve Stevens
><Skeeve at eintellego.net>wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I've been thinking about the impact that iCloud (by Apple) will have on
>>the
>> Internet.
>>
>> My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL,
>> Cable, wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene
>>amounts
>> of gigs of music, tv, backups, email, photos, documents/data and so on
>>to
>> their data centres.
>>
>> Now, don't misunderstand me, I love the concept of iCloud, as I do
>>DropBox,
>> but from an Access Providers perspective, I'm thinking this might be a
>>'bad
>> thing'.
>>
>> From what I can see there are some key issues:
>>
>>  *   Users with plans that count upload and download together.
>>  *   The speed of Asymmetric tail technology such as DSL
>>  *   The design of access provider backhaul (from DSLAM to core) metrics
>>  *   The design of some transit metrics
>>
>> So basically the potential issue is that a large residential provider
>>could
>> have thousands of users connect to iCloud, their connections slowed
>>because
>> of uploading data, burning their included bandwidth caps, slowing down
>>the
>> backhaul segment of the network, and as residential providers are mostly
>> download, some purchase transit from their upstreams in an symmetric
>> fashion.
>>
>> This post is really just to prompt discussion if people think there is
>> anything to actually worry about, or there are other implications that
>>I've
>> not really thought of yet.
>>
>> ŠSkeeve
>>
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>>
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