Michael K. Smith - Adhost
mksmith at adhost.com
Tue Oct 11 13:47:05 CDT 2011
Just an FYI - even though you approved the wireless charge, it's actually free. They pull the per-diem/week charge off your bill. That applies to all NANOG attendees.
On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I don't think it is. I think that you can negotiate and I will point out that the hotel
> here has wanted our business enough that they have now scrambled to make
> life significantly better. You can also bet I'll be demanding that they credit my
> $54 that I put on the in-room access be credited to my bill even though ARIN would
> pay it.
> I routinely do this when the conference network (or the in-room network) sucks and it's provided by the hotel. I have yet to have one refuse my refund request.
> On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
>> Holding the last 10% of the meeting room payment seems like a good start for
>> any venue.
>> But as others have indicated, the market may be too small for free-market
>> principles to be fully effective.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JC Dill [mailto:jcdill.lists at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:36 PM
>> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
>> Subject: Re: meeting network
>> On 10/10/11 7:00 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> It would be wise for NANOG to approach future venues and specifically
>> discuss these things with the hotel IT departments in question ahead of time
>> so that they have some remote chance of being prepared.
>> I tried this approach many years ago, for a Blogher conference. The
>> hotel's IT people were uncooperative, and incompetent, and they lied
>> both about their network design and their equipment capabilities. I
>> have since learned that this is par for the course. IMHO the only way
>> to solve this problem is with big $$$ penalties in the contract, big
>> enough that the incompetent IT people realize their jobs are on the line
>> and relinquish control so experts can get access and set-up things properly.
>> Also note - the conference or hotel's IT people will always claim they
>> have "done this before with no problems" even when they haven't.
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