meeting network

Tue Oct 11 18:47:05 UTC 2011

Just an FYI - even though you approved the wireless charge, it's actually free.  They pull the per-diem/week charge off your bill.  That applies to all NANOG attendees.

Mike

On Oct 10, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:

> I don't think it is. I think that you can negotiate and I will point out that the hotel
> here has wanted our business enough that they have now scrambled to make
> life significantly better. You can also bet I'll be demanding that they credit my
> $54 that I put on the in-room access be credited to my bill even though ARIN would
> pay it.
> 
> I routinely do this when the conference network (or the in-room network) sucks and it's provided by the hotel. I have yet to have one refuse my refund request.
> 
> Owen
> 
> On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
> 
>> Holding the last 10% of the meeting room payment seems like a good start for
>> any venue.
>> 
>> But as others have indicated, the market may be too small for free-market
>> principles to be fully effective.
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JC Dill [mailto:jcdill.lists at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:36 PM
>> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
>> Subject: Re: meeting network
>> 
>> On 10/10/11 7:00 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> It would be wise for NANOG to approach future venues and specifically
>> discuss these things with the hotel IT departments in question ahead of time
>> so that they have some remote chance of being prepared.
>> 
>> I tried this approach many years ago, for a Blogher conference.  The 
>> hotel's IT people were uncooperative, and incompetent, and they lied 
>> both about their network design and their equipment capabilities.  I 
>> have since learned that this is par for the course.  IMHO the only way 
>> to solve this problem is with big $$$ penalties in the contract, big 
>> enough that the incompetent IT people realize their jobs are on the line 
>> and relinquish control so experts can get access and set-up things properly.
>> 
>> Also note - the conference or hotel's IT people will always claim they 
>> have "done this before with no problems" even when they haven't.
>> 
>> jc
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