NY Times on IPv4 depletion

Mon Feb 14 22:52:59 UTC 2011

In message <AANLkTikOS1H-2APnQqWqfsj7N-L=kuDYGNBpYWox-DiW at mail.gmail.com>, Came
ron Byrne writes:
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> On Feb 14, 2011 1:52 PM, "Mark Andrews" <marka at isc.org> wrote:
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> > In message <4D597216.1030400 at brightok.net>, Jack Bates writes:
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> > > On 2/14/2011 12:12 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> > > > Too bad the article pushes my mobile device to their mobile site
> > > > mobile.nytimes.com and that references an ipv4 literal for the picture
> to
> > > > load .... so not only is nytimes not ipv6 it is also broken for ipv6
> only
> > > > users behind nat64 ....
> > >
> > > That's almost as bad as the hundreds of subdomains used in webpages
> > > which sometimes hit broken load balancers (reporting nxdomain for AAAA).
> >
> > Very few do that anymore.  What they do however is return the wrong SOA
> > record.
> >
> > > So you have to check each and every domain in the source to find which
> > > ones are broken.
> >
> > Which one really shouldn't have to do.  Add DS-Lite support to the
> > phone and have the carriers advertise that they support DS-Lite and
> > the IPv4 literal problem goes away.
> >
> > This has been done in a phone already so it is possible to do.
> >
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> Ds-lite has been dismissed by 3gpp. Nytimes needs to start using fqdns and
> ideally ipv6.  Until then, it's their content that's being mangled. It is
> not reasonable for network operators to engineer for amateur web programming
> mistakes

It still doesn't stop handest manufatures adding DS-Lite support
and operators responding to the DHCP option so the handsets can
find the AFTR box.

NAT64/DNS64 may be the only operator side only solution but it has
lots of limitation to it and it can't be made to work as well has
DS-Lite even once the handset know the DNS64 prefix and BIH is added
to translate IPv4 to IPv6 inside the handset using the DNS64 prefix.

Mark
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