Verizon acquiring Terremark

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net
Wed Feb 2 21:56:35 UTC 2011


On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Jason LeBlanc <jml at packetpimp.org> wrote:
> I wonder if the price point will change.  Having been in PAIX/S&D/Equinix
> facilities for several years things have certainly changed with regard to
> contract negotiations and pricing.  Equinix is not very flexible.  The
> shuffle of techs has also resulted in a much less helpful group to work
> with.
>
> On 02/02/2011 09:20 AM, Paul Vixie wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:22:39 -0500
>>> From: Jeffrey Lyon<jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net>
>>>
>>> I'm sure everything will be fine in practice as others have indicated,
>>> I was merely making a point of the inherent conflict of interest.
>>
>> ah.  if you mean "it's unusual" or "it's difficult" rather than "it
>> cannot be" then i have no arguments.  the reason PAIX got traction
>> at all, coming late to the game (1995-ish) as we did, was because MFS
>> was then able to charge circuit prices for many forms of cross connect
>> down at MAE West.  and i did face continuous pressure from MFN to go
>> after a share of PAIX's carrier's circuit revenue.  (which i never did
>> and which none of my successors have done either.)
>>
>> noting, the game as moved on.  if verizon behaves badly as terremark's
>> owner then the presence of equinix in the market will act as a relief
>> valve.  i think the "neutral and commercial" model is very well
>> established and that verizon will not want to be the only carrier in
>> those facilities nor have their circuit-holders be the only customers
>> for the real estate.  it's an awful lot of space to use just as colo,
>> and it's both over- and underbuilt for colo (vs. an IX).
>>
>> re:
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Paul Vixie<vixie at isc.org>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jeffrey Lyon<jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net>  writes:
>>>>
>>>>> One cannot be owned by a carrier and remain carrier neutral.
>>>>>
>>>>> My two cents,
>>>>
>>>> my experience running PAIX when it was owned by MFN was not
>>>> like you're saying.
>
>

You might try TelX, we've had good luck with them.

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