A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level 3's IRR Database)

Tue Feb 1 21:20:37 UTC 2011

On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Martin Millnert <millnert at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here be dragons,
> <snip>
>> It should be fairly obvious, by most recently what's going on in
>> Egypt, why allowing a government to control the Internet is a Really
>> Bad Idea.
>> 
> 
> how is the egypt thing related to rPKI?
> How is the propsed rPKI work related to gov't control?
> 
RPKI is a big knob governments might be tempted to turn.

>> architecturally/technologically *impossible* for a entity from country
>> A to via-the-hierarchical-trust-model block a prefix assigned to some
>> entity in country B, that is assigned by B's RIR and in full
>> accordance with the RIR policies and in no breach of any contract.
> 
> countries do not have RIR's, countries have NIR's... regions have RIR's.

RIRs live in countries with governments.
RIRs are unlikely to mount a successful challenge against an organization
with tanks and mortars.

Owen