Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Oct 18 13:05:26 CDT 2010


On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:

> On 10/18/10 9:33 AM, Tony Hain wrote:
>> This 'get a /32' BAD ADVICE has got to stop. There are way too many people
>> trying to force fit their customers into a block that is intended for a
>> start-up with ZERO customers.
>> 
>> Develop a plan for /48 per customer, then go to ARIN and get that size
>> block. 
> 
> Develop a plan, consider the prior art, consider the possibly that you
> might deploy 6rd, consider what your peers are doing, consider the
> projections for your business. Go to arin with a request that meets your
> current and anticipated needs and that is defensible.
> 
> don't decide without thinking it through that you're assigning a
> customer a /64 a /60 a /56 or even /48. this should be defensible as
> part of a business plan, otherwise what's the point?
> 
A /48 is defensible. It's the architecturally intended end-site configuration,
it is allowed by policy, and, it is a reasonable starting point. There is no
real reason to assign less than a /48 to any end-site other than hyper-
conservatism due to IPv4-think.

Owen

>> Figure out exactly what you are going to assign to customers later,
>> but don't tie your hands by asking for a block that is way too small to
>> begin with. Any ISP with more than 30k customers SHOULD NOT have a /32, and
>> if they got one either trade it in or put it in a lab and get a REAL block. 
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brandon Kim [mailto:brandon.kim at brandontek.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 1:59 PM
>>> To: nanog at nanog.org
>>> Subject: RE: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks everyone who responded. This list is such a valuable wealth of
>>> information.
>>> 
>>> Apparently I was wrong about the /64 as that should be /32 so thanks
>>> for that correction....
>>> 
>>> Thanks again especially on a Saturday weekend!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: rdobbins at arbor.net
>>>> To: nanog at nanog.org
>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:09:43 +0000
>>>> Subject: Re: Definitive Guide to IPv6 adoption
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 16, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Then move on to the Internet which as with most things is where the
>>> most cuurent if not helpful information resides.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Vyncke's IPv6 security book is definitely worthwhile, as well,
>>> in combination with Schudel & Smith's infrastructure security book (the
>>> latter isn't IPv6-specific, but is the best book out there on
>>> infrastructure security):
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587055945>
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587053365>
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>>> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 	       Sell your computer and buy a guitar.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 		 	   		  =
>> 
>> 
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