as for the alt root servers idea, in case you didnt see this: http://twitter.com/brokep/status/8779363872935936 (Nods to Richard Sexton :) /kc -- Ken Chase - ken at heavycomputing.ca - +1 416 897 6284 - Toronto CANADA Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 Front St. W.