Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering]

Wed Oct 14 15:53:37 UTC 2009

Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> As for facts, there is lots of basis.  HE has run a network for decades 
> and has never let a v4 bifurcation happen so long.  Ever.  They've run 
> v6 for a few years yet it happened.

News flash, IPv6 is new.

News flash, every single IPv6 network that gets configured that 
previously did not exist is new.

News flash, when an IPv6 newbie configures IPv6 for the first time they 
have zero IPv6 BGP peers and transits until they configure them.

News flash, some of these IPv6 newbies will even commit the error of not 
bothering to establish much IPv6 peering or decent IPv6 transit, before 
adding a AAAA record for their main website, ensuring that it is broken 
for the majority of the existing IPv6 Internet.

News flash, newbies make mistakes, insist up is down, blue is green etc. 
  This is called learning if they fix it, and stupidity otherwise.

News flash, Hurricane will do everything possible to reach these newbie 
networks where ever they are in the world, some of them rather large, 
and try to help them (sometimes in spite of themselves), however some of 
them will insist on breaking themselves anyway!

It's just going to happen and there is nothing you can do to stop them.

Customers will vote with dollars (or whatever currency), problem solved.

Mike.