Request for contact and procedure information

Sat Jul 11 02:57:10 UTC 2009

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Jeffrey
Lyon<jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net> wrote:
> Fact: Filtering TCP/80 attacks is a 3 to 4 figure job, sometimes even 5 figure.

I was actually being serious, it's not, it doesn't have to, and in the
case that started this discussion it probably would have been
sufficient to just drop tcp/80 to his link since I would be it's
'business dsl' so he gets an 'SLA' not so he can run a business
critical web service there.

There are services you can buy that are a lot more expensive, but why
would you? if there are options that are more relevant and cheaper...
and in line with what you want. You can certainly pay more if you want
to, I'm not sure that's the smart choice though.

-Chris

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Christopher
> Morrow<morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Luan Nguyen<luan at netcraftsmen.net> wrote:
>>> Filter like in using the Cisco Guard of sort, to send the good traffic back
>>> to the customers? And that service is <cough>free through vzb?</cough>
>>
>> as in: "find some way to keep the customer alive and kicking"
>>
>> which might be:
>> 1) null route bad destination if no one cares about it
>> 2) acl the traffic upstream if it's not to something you care about
>> (but need the ip to work)
>> 3) guard/mitigate traffic and redeliver (which has some limitations or did)
>>
>> all of that is free to 701 customers, yes. if you have to get to step3
>> more than a few times I'm sure sales will want you to pay, since that
>> part isn't 'free' to the company.
>>
>> point being, dropping tcp/80 syn traffic isn't hard, and it's
>> routinely done at customer request. (or was when I was doing it there)
>>
>> -chris
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.lists at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 5:40 PM
>>> To: Jeffrey Lyon
>>> Cc: nanog at nanog.org; Charles Wyble
>>> Subject: Re: Request for contact and procedure information
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Jeffrey
>>> Lyon<jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net> wrote:
>>>> Would what? Null route the IP? I'm talking about actually filtering the
>>>> attack.
>>>
>>> as was I. (talking about filtering the attack)
>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 2009 5:10 PM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Jeffrey Lyon<jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net>
>>>> wrote: > All, > > There a...
>>>>
>>>> <cough>uunet/vzb would/will</cough>
>>>>
>>>> (for free most times even)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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