ip-precedence for management traffic

Joe Greco jgreco at ns.sol.net
Tue Dec 29 11:15:38 CST 2009


> Joe wrote:
> >Getting back to the OP's message, I keep having these visions of the
> >castrated "Internet" access some hotels provide.  You know the ones.
> >The ones where everything goes through a Web proxy and you're forced
> >to have IE6 as a browser.  For some people, who just want to log on 
> >to Yahoo or Hotmail or whatever to check their e-mail, that's fine.
> >However, some of us might want to be able to VNC somewhere, or do
> >VoIP, or run a VPN connection...  these are all well-known Internet
> >capabilities, and yet some providers of so-called "Internet" access
> >at hotels haven't allowed for them.
> >
> >Do we really want to spread that sort of model to the rest of the
> >Internet?  All it really encourages is for more and more things to
> >be ported to HTTP, including, amusingly, management of devices...
> >at which point we have not really solved the problem but we have
> >succeeded at doing damage to the potential of the Internet. 
> 
> 
> Yes, taking away the mechanisms will result in a "castrated" Internet experience for the clueful ones which is why I don't think this can be a one-size-fits-all model like the hotels try to do.  Imagine a residential ISP that offers castration at a lower price point than what is currently charged for monthly "raw" access.  I think that many consumers would opt for that choice, while those who need access to everything would continue to pay the same rate.  The price drop would be the incentive to get castrated, and what you give up would be access to things you likely don't use anyway.  This castration process would be a big help to spam-blocking, evilware-blocking, ddos-blocking, etc. in addition to mitigating attacks against the mechanisms from hijacked residential computers.  

Then, by all means, approach your management and make a proposal to 
sell reduced fee "Web only" access.  You can already force all such
traffic through a transparent HTTP proxy, a DNS server of your choosing,
and filter out everything else.

I am still failing to see why what you're talking about cannot be done
with today's technology.

And if it can be done with today's technology, and isn't being done with
it, either that's a business opportunity for you, or it says something
about the model.

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.




More information about the NANOG mailing list