the Intercage mess

Sun Sep 28 01:38:05 UTC 2008

I get the feeling, to a certain extent, that there is a certain kind of mob
mentality such that since we *can* do it, and they are a little guy, that we
should shut them down no matter what.

So despite what seems their now honest attempts to clean up, some are bent
on still shutting them down (to make an example out of them?).  Not that
it's not unreasonable 'punishment' for all years of abuse that was inflicted
on Internet users, but if this is who "we" are, then I'm a little
disappointed.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:59 PM
To: William Pitcock
Cc: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: the Intercage mess

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On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, William Pitcock
<nenolod at systeminplace.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 19:28 -0700, Paul Ferguson wrote:

>> I think that _more_than_reasonable_ background research, historical
>> record, etc. have met the qualifications of "civilized vernier". The
>> outcry was, and is not, arbitrary.
>
> No, but forcing them offline now that they are taking a new approach to
> handling abuse is ridiculous.
>

No -- I think that after 5 years of malicious activity, it was overdue.

I'm sorry, but your efforts to get the last word here are in vain.

Cheers,

- - ferg

p.s. And by the way, whether the badness has actually been purged from
Atrivo/Intercage's IP address space remains to be seen -- previous similar
claims have all been false. Time will tell -- may eyes are watching.

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