Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer

William Pitcock nenolod at systeminplace.net
Sun Sep 21 16:03:20 CDT 2008


Greetings,

I can further vouch for this... an unusually large amount of botnets
reported to DroneBL have command and control servers on Atrivo's
network.

With the amount of listings and reports I get, it is obvious that Atrivo
does not care about the abuse@ inbox... which is unfortunate.

William

On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 16:49 -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
> Considering the years of abuse, DNSBL listings, ROKSO listings, further 
> abuse, and silence at the abuse switch, I _CERTAINLY_ would not send 
> Atrivo abuse reports, I would send them to the upstreams instead.  
> Considering the almost 40 page white paper produced last month on the 
> abuse from Atrivo, for me to change this practice, I would require:
>      * a rapid, and verifiable response from Atrivo here over some 
> period of time exceeding several months, and continuing thereafter,
>      * the clearing of SBL/ROKSO records, and
>      * a general reduction of abuse eminating from Atrivo.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> Emil Kacperski wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > Don't believe everything you read.  I have unfortunately been a target over the years
> > because I rented machines to Esthost.  But the stories made up are way out there.
> > It's all very easy a dedicated server / customer relationship - nothing more.
> >
> > Never did I ignore anymore from the abuse community.  Go ahead and find me
> > a IP address that did any spam or anything.  You won't find it, I can't remember
> > the last time I got any Spamcop complaints.  Not even going to mention Spamhaus
> > because we all know there abuse.
> >
> > "We asked a handful of Intercage's most vocal critics if they sent take
> > down requests to Kacperski. None said yes. "In his defense, what may
> > have finally happened is that malware researchers stopped bothering to
> > report" abusive sites," Eckelberry says."
> >
> > None said YES!  That pretty much sums it all up.  Maybe I could of reached out
> > more, I guess that was my mistake.  But it surely is impossible to deal with if
> > you have to deal with people like John Reid.
> >
> > Thanks!  
> >
> > Contact: Emil Kacperski
> >
> > Company: Intercage Inc. - Atrivo
> >
> >          Dedicated Servers
> >
> >          San Francisco Datacenter
> >
> > E-Mail:  emil at intercage.com
> >
> > Phone:   925-550-3947
> >
> > ICQ:     23531098
> >
> >
> >       
> >   
> 
> 





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