Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer
nenolod at systeminplace.net
Sun Sep 21 16:03:20 CDT 2008
I can further vouch for this... an unusually large amount of botnets
reported to DroneBL have command and control servers on Atrivo's
With the amount of listings and reports I get, it is obvious that Atrivo
does not care about the abuse@ inbox... which is unfortunate.
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 16:49 -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote:
> Considering the years of abuse, DNSBL listings, ROKSO listings, further
> abuse, and silence at the abuse switch, I _CERTAINLY_ would not send
> Atrivo abuse reports, I would send them to the upstreams instead.
> Considering the almost 40 page white paper produced last month on the
> abuse from Atrivo, for me to change this practice, I would require:
> * a rapid, and verifiable response from Atrivo here over some
> period of time exceeding several months, and continuing thereafter,
> * the clearing of SBL/ROKSO records, and
> * a general reduction of abuse eminating from Atrivo.
> Emil Kacperski wrote:
> > Matt,
> > Don't believe everything you read. I have unfortunately been a target over the years
> > because I rented machines to Esthost. But the stories made up are way out there.
> > It's all very easy a dedicated server / customer relationship - nothing more.
> > Never did I ignore anymore from the abuse community. Go ahead and find me
> > a IP address that did any spam or anything. You won't find it, I can't remember
> > the last time I got any Spamcop complaints. Not even going to mention Spamhaus
> > because we all know there abuse.
> > "We asked a handful of Intercage's most vocal critics if they sent take
> > down requests to Kacperski. None said yes. "In his defense, what may
> > have finally happened is that malware researchers stopped bothering to
> > report" abusive sites," Eckelberry says."
> > None said YES! That pretty much sums it all up. Maybe I could of reached out
> > more, I guess that was my mistake. But it surely is impossible to deal with if
> > you have to deal with people like John Reid.
> > Thanks!
> > Contact: Emil Kacperski
> > Company: Intercage Inc. - Atrivo
> > Dedicated Servers
> > San Francisco Datacenter
> > E-Mail: emil at intercage.com
> > Phone: 925-550-3947
> > ICQ: 23531098
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