GLBX De-Peers Intercage [Was: RE: Washington Post: Atrivo/Intercag e, w hy are we peering with the American RBN?]

Steven M. Bellovin smb at cs.columbia.edu
Mon Sep 1 10:33:21 CDT 2008


On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:08:20 -0400
Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:

> a) There exist providers that are willing to take money from scum.
> b) We won't get rid of the scum until we admit (a) is true.

I mostly agree with you -- but I get very worried about who defines
"scum".  Consider the following cases, which I will assert are not very
far-fetched:

(a) China labels Falun Gong as "scum" and demands that international
ISPs not carry it if they want to do business in China

(b) Russia labels critics of Putin and Medvedev as "scum" and demands
that international ISPs bar their traffic if they want to do business
in Russia

(c) Saudi Arabia denounces Internet pornographers as "scum" and demands
that ISPs bar their traffic if they want their countries to be able to
purchase oil

(c) France and Germany label EBay as "scum" for not barring sales of
Nazi memorabilia and demands that international ISPs not carry it if
they want to do business in the EU

(d) The RIAA and MPAA label file-sharers as "scum" and deny combined
TV/ISP companies (cable ISPs, Verizon FIOS, etc.) access to any
*broadcast* content if the ISP side doesn't crack down on file-sharing.

These are slightly far-fetched, but only slightly.  I have a nice
real-world example that I need to verify is public first, but it's
directly on this point.


		--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb




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