Peering - Benefits?

Thu Oct 30 13:09:13 UTC 2008

Thanks - no I understand that...

We have multiple transit providers today and are already present on a
couple of smaller peering exchanges with an open peering policy... our
experience with them has been very positive.

The redundancy perspective is that you now have more paths to the same
AS - and an assumption that the peering route will always be best (I
know that's not always true).  We of course have enough transit in case
of a peering outage - would never "put all our eggs into one basket"
that it sounds like some others are doing....  also, we are looking at a
number of them in various parts of the world currently which adds
another level of redundancy per say....

Take care,

Paul

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From: HRH Sven Olaf Prinz von CyberBunker-Kamphuis MP
[mailto:sven at cyberbunker.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:04 AM
To: Paul Stewart
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu; nanog at nanog.org
Subject: RE: Peering - Benefits?

internet exchanges are not per-se "redundant"
they basically are a switch which actually, because of the many
connected
parties, most of which do not have enough PAID transit to cover any
outages on it, causes more problems than they are good for.
(the amsix with their many outages and connected parties that rely
primarliy on it's functionality is a prime example here)

internet exchanges usually are some sort of hobby computer club, you
cannot rely on them to actually -work-, but when they do work that's
"nice" (always make sure you have enough paid capacity to cover for it
when they do not work however!)

peering on only one of them therefore does not make your network more
reliable in any way (it becomes a different story when you connect to
like
10 or so worldwide).

as for "peering" agreements, just implement an open peering policy
(doesn't nessesarily have to take place over an ix, also applies to
pieces
of ethernet running from your network to others).

those basically are contracts that force anyone who has also signed one
to
peer with your network, wether they like you or not (saves the trouble
when you are a content provider and others do not want to peer with you
because they provide content too and you are a competing party etc).

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Paul Stewart wrote:

> Thanks!  That's a really good one and surprised myself I missed it..;)
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> > I can think of some but looking to develop a concrete list of
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> > reasons etc. such as:
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> > -control over routing between networks
> > -security aspect (being able to filter/verify routes to some degree)
> > -latency/performance
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> I'm surprised you didn't include "chance to pick up a redundant
> connection".
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